Bernie Sanders Is Winning With The One Group His Rivals Can't Sway: Voters - Guardian

[WillyT]

Bernie Sanders is winning with the one group his rivals can't sway: voters
Perhaps more important than Sanders’s gain in the polls is how it happened: by patiently hammering on his message, regardless of what other candidates said
Trevor Timm - Guardian
1/14/16

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As Trump continues to dominate both parties for media attention, and Hillary Clinton remains a favorite to win with Wall Street, Bernie Sanders is suddenly surging again among those who actually matter: voters. But more important than his rise in the polls is how he’s doing it.

A string of polls over the past two weeks show that the once-independent Vermont senator is tied or in the lead in the two early primary states, Iowa and New Hampshire, and all of a sudden, in striking distance of Hillary Clinton nationally. With very little fanfare, he has been leading in New Hampshire for months, with some recent ones putting his lead in the double digits.

But Iowa seemed distinctly in Clinton’s corner for the last quarter of 2015 until this week, just a month away from the primary. A Quinnipiac poll released Tuesday night showed Sanders vaulted into the lead, with a slew of others show him pulling in close to a tie.

Digging deeper into the numbers shows even more good news for Sanders: nationally, he is beating Clinton by 2-1 with voters younger than 45, and by 20 points with female voters younger than 35. In New Hampshire there is not one demographic group in which Clinton is beating Sanders. He’s also made recent gains among African Americans and Hispanics – both demographics long considered Clinton strongholds.

But perhaps more important than the news of Sanders’s gain is how it happened: by patiently hammering on his message of drawing attention to economic inequality, raising taxes on the rich, dramatically expanding Medicare and Social Security, making public universities free of charge and criminal justice reform.

He has, to great criticism by beltway pundits, avoided the rest of the candidates’ descent into constant fear-mongering about terrorism and hyping the “threat” from Isis. Instead he has mocked both the media and other candidates for doing so, as BuzzFeed reported last month:

“As a nation and as a people, we have got to understand that our country faces a myriad of very serious problems… if you turn on the TV, what they now say is, ‘Well we’ve got one problem, it’s Isis,” Sanders said, launching into a sarcastic impression of the “they” on television this week.

Clinton, meanwhile...

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More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/14/bernie-sanders-is-winning-with-the-one-group-his-rivals-cant-sway-voters

[Punkingal]

1. I especially liked the last paragraph...

But it’s clear that Sanders is not going to fade away, as many predicted in the fall after it looked like his support was leveling off; he is only getting stronger. Given that most voters don’t even start paying attention until after the Iowa caucus, Democrats would do themselves well by putting the Clinton coronation on hold for now.

[WillyT]

2. Yep...

[lewebley3]

16. Sanders is getting nervous: He is not supported by the Dem party

[paleotn]

20. ????

Are you the new king of the non sequitur? Of just a run of the mill troll?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

31. That has fuck all to do with what?

[lewebley3]

43. This is a race for the Democratic party nomination:

Party people like Patrick Leahy of VT, will not be a delegate
for Sanders.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

46. Sucks for the Democratic party then. n/t

[lewebley3]

47. Will suck to lose 49 states to Trump

[Fantastic Anarchist]

48. Better vote for Sanders if you don't want that to happen, then.

[lewebley3]

49. No is going to vote for a little old man for Commander in Chief and a socialist

When black lives maters confronted Sanders, he screamed
and ran away.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

50. And now they endorse him.

You're quite literally spewing the opposite of reality.

[BeanMusical]

32. Wut?

[Betty Karlson]

36. He is not supported by the Democratic Party: true. But that has never made him nervous. eom

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. "He is not supported by the Dem party" With this so -called "Democratic" party, THAT

Is a Badge if HONOR! He doesn't need their support. He has US, WE THE PEOPLE - THE VOTERS. Believe it or not, that "Dem Party" works for us. Those paychecks and all the money they waste, is money WE THE PEOPLE give them when we pay taxes. THEY WORK FOR US. We're THEIR bosses. They're suppose to do what WE THE PEOPLE hired them to do...not the other way around.

Bernie wants to work for US. The way it's suppose to be. He doesn't need the so-called "Democratic" party's support. We The People have his back. The Oligarchs' days are numbered.

This is a movement and it's NOT going away. It just grows stronger every day, so that "Dem Party" you seem to worship can kiss our collective arses.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[CorporatistNation]

40. Bernard Is Not Supported By The CORPORATIST THIRD WAY FORMER DLC OUTFIT!

THAT is WHY he actually has the support of the VOTERS! We must watch for cheating NOW! Especially where electronic voting machines come into play!

The CORPORATISTS are pulling out ALL the stops to upend Bernie and install Clinton Inc. back in the WH! Remember the busing in of Chicago kids in exchange for IPODS in 2008 to caucus for Obama... That CHEATING made the difference. Remember also...

Hillary came in THIRD... BEHIND John Edwards!

[lewebley3]

42. Patrick Leahy is not supporting Him: or Dean: they know Sanders

[lewebley3]

44. No they not so-called Dem's: They are Democratic office holders:

If someone is so-called it's Sanders he is not a Dem

[eggplant]

41. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

ha.

[vkkv]

3. Thanks for the post n/t

[LibDemAlways]

4. The "very little fanfare" part was the deliberate

media blackout in the US to prevent voters from hearing Sanders' message. What the establishment media failed to realize was that they've become irrelevant. Sanders' message got out through social media and by word of mouth.

[Warren DeMontague]

5. who are these "voters" of which you speak??? Who put them in charge?

[WillyT]

6. LOL !!!

[lewebley3]

17. The Guardian is filled Sanders attack propaganda

[shawn703]

18. Now the news is Sanders attack propaganda?

Lordy lordy lordy

[Eleanors38]

25. MSM is about as pro-Sanders as it is pro-Second Amendment...

[BeanMusical]

33. Does not compute.

[Old Crow]

7. Hee hee hee!

This old crow gives your post a high-five.

[99th_Monkey]

9. +10000 - DNC mantra "we don't need no stinkin' voters, we got MONEY" nt

[azmom]

12. Jajaja and hahaha

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. Warn me next time you're going to post the photo of a Republican drug warrior.

It makes me want to vomit on her.

[Live and Learn]

8. K&R nt

[99th_Monkey]

10. Incisive analysis - thanks WillyT. nt

[WillyT]

11. Thanks !!! - Did You Catch THIS:

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511010464

[99th_Monkey]

14. No I hadn't, so thanks for the link WillyT. Woot! GO Bernie!! n/t

[mountain grammy]

38. Thanks for that link..

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[azurnoir]

15. the 'unwashed masses' are finally being heard

[HockeyMom]

19. It has surprised me Bernie's support among young women

It is his message, not the messenger himself (old male), that is resonating with them. That isn't what it is supposed to be all about? My daughters (31 and 36), and their female friends, all support Bernie over Hillary. Gender alone is not enough. Support crazy Michelle Bachman just because she is your gender? Hell NO. It has to be the RIGHT woman candidate. If a male candidate's stance on the issues is better than the female candidate's stance, then support the MALE.

Additionally, I am a former Independent, now a Democrat. Bernie and I have that in common also. It was my DAUGHTERS who convinced me to switch.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. What wrong with these consecutive sentences? ...

In New Hampshire there is not one demographic group in which Clinton is beating Sanders. He’s also made recent gains among African Americans and Hispanics – both demographics long considered Clinton strongholds.

I mean, beyond telegraphing that the data is cherry picked?

[Bob_in_VA]

22. Nothing

The first sentence is specific to Bernie's standing versus Hillary's in New Hampshire. The second sentence refers to Bernie's standing nationally versus Hillary. Two different demographics.

[1StrongBlackMan]

23. Isn't that reading what isn't in the line? ...

"Nationally" appears nowhere is the second sentence.

Perhaps the writer was just being lazy, though.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Here is the information that was linked and cited in the article, without comment

Sanders appears to have made some gains with African-American, Hispanic and other non-white Democrats, however. By 51 percent to 32 percent, more non-white Democrats offer favorable than unfavorable impressions of Sanders, compared with a 36-29 favorable-unfavorable split in October and 41-31 margin in November.

Clinton still outpaces Sanders across all demographic subgroups of Democrats — most notably, non-whites (92 percent favorable) and liberals, with whom 88 percent rate Clinton positively and 74 percent say the same of Sanders. But Clinton's advantage in favorable ratings is clearest among moderate and conservative Democrats, among whom 80 percent give Clinton favorable marks but only 41 percent rate Sanders positivel

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/13/poll-views-of-trump-carson-and-bush-dim-as-christie-and-cruz-rise/

I will let others draw their own inferences.

[Number23]

26. Sweet Georgia Brown...

Clinton still outpaces Sanders across all demographic subgroups of Democrats — most notably, non-whites (92 percent favorable) and liberals, with whom 88 percent rate Clinton positively and 74 percent say the same of Sanders.

Am I missing something? Has there ever been an article who's title and content could not have been more contradictory and at odds with one another???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. That 92% number is astounding. That's Obama like popularity among Democrats of color./nt

[Metric System]

28. Nobody has voted yet and more potential voters still favor Hillary anyway.

[WillyT]

30. You Really, Really, Need To See This...

[pablo_marmol]

35. I love this video!

Every time Cenk yelled WRONG! I screamed........and STILL DO!

To say that Uyger's excitement is contagious would be an incredible understatement!

GO BERNIE!!

[LWolf]

29. K & R

[BeanMusical]

34. Kick and R

[Dont call me Shirley]

39. Bernie is the only candidate who refers to the American people as we, not they. We the people.

[Faux pas]

51. Kick!!!