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Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:44 AM

Gregg Braden - debunking repository

I'm looking for additional debunkings and original thoughts on this guy, especially those indicating his bullshit is a cover for conservative ideas. There are a couple Amazon reviews of his latest book he's touring with saying it seems to be a cover for conservative Republicans.

A video presentation by Chris White called the The 2012 Deception, first part here:



A decent but too short review of Braden's book, Awakening To Zero Point:

Zero Point to Gregg Braden

Reading about the ďI Can Do ItģĒ seminars, I was amused to see that Gregg Braden is still inflicting his nonsense on the credulous. I read his book Awakening To Zero Point several years ago after a friend said, donít criticize it if you havenít read it. Well, fair enough. Iíve read it now and I am free to say with some authority, itís bad. In fact, itís astonishingly bad. Not only is it just plain wrong, but Bradenís blatant manipulation of his readers shows he must know itís nonsense.

Braden is typical of a lot of Newage authors in that he starts with science but distorts it to draw unwarranted conclusions. Braden also makes up stuff and says it is science too. In this book, Braden starts with the Schumann Resonance, a low frequency radio signal caused by lightning strikes in the upper atmosphere. How many times do radio waves travel around the globe in a second? 7.8 times. This frequency, 7.8 times per second (7.8 Hz), is the Schumann Resonance frequency. Braden says itís speeding up (it isnít). To justify this he quotes a range of Schumann harmonic frequencies: 14, 20, 26, 33, 39. But anyone who has ever strummed a guitar will know what harmonic frequencies are. And they do not mean the base frequency is changing.

more: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/zero_point_to_g.html


Any others, particularly with quotes from his latest book Deep Truth, please share.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:30 PM

1. Well this review on Amazon is hilarious...

Anyway, Braden draws incorrect conclusions from it. He states: "The point at which temperatures reach absolute zero... is referred to as Zero Point."

Actually, zero Kelvin is called absolute zero not zero point. (Or even Zero Point.) Of course Braden has to call it Zero Point because that is the title of his book. A non-existent connection is then made, as Braden morphs seamlessly with no logic or justification to: "Earth is experiencing early stages of the events that will provide the experience of Zero Point..." and three more paragraphs of similar unsubstantiated twaddle, these being the theories his book has been written to espouse. The scientific explanation of absolute zero may blind the unscientific reader, who may not notice that "Zero Point" has absolutely no connection to absolute zero. (Absolutely zero connection, in fact.) Even if Braden's theories are 100% correct, there is still no connection between them and absolute zero. It seems intellectually dishonest.


Secondly, get this on page 62:

"Only 10% of the human brain is utilized, and only 10% of the mass of the universe can be accounted for. Is it by chance that these percentages correlate so closely? Possibly not."

LOL again. Possibly not? No, just possibly. Firstly, Braden does not justify that these two are connected. He just says "possibly not", and the reader may not notice that there is no connection. Secondly, the "only 10% of the human brain is utilized" is a total myth, and the "10% mass of the universe" figure is incorrect. Not that this matters to Braden. (Well, possibly not.)

The rest of the book includes a Cook's Tour of the usual crank subjects, including the pyramids of Egypt (built by aliens), crop circles (a secret message) and the Shroud of Turin (genuine, although it was known to be a fake in the 14th century when it first appeared). And Jesus ("the Universal Reference Being") makes several appearances.

Hey, these are incredible phenomena, don't you think? Jeez, they're all connected! (Not.)

The only thing I like about this book is its title, Zero Point - which is exactly how many I give it out of five.


Linky to the whole glorious Amazon One Star Review.

All this "Shift 2012" nonsense makes me . Thanks for posting this because I need some anti-woo ammunition.

I wasn't aware of any association with it as a sort of new-age cover for conservative ideas... I'll be on the lookout for that now, too.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:14 AM

2. Standard New Age "light worker" shit...

That's been bouncing around since the 60s, probably the result of some bad acid trips.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 11:06 AM

4. I hang out with a lot of folks who are into this type of stuff

It's all I can do to not burst out laughing when they get all serious about their woo-woo.

I have to admit it is fun to poke 'em with a stick on some of this nonsense sometimes.

I am so bad.

(They're good folks, but a little nutty sometimes.)

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 12:00 PM

5. Is it by chance that he gets both of those facts wrong?

Possibly not.

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:43 PM

6. 'Is it by chance that these percentages correlate so closely?'

Maybe not; maybe mythmakers like the figure '10 percent'.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Wed Mar 21, 2012, 06:28 AM

3. The first (5-star) review...

"The implications of this book still affect me today. Gregg Braden intellectually synthesizes current geological events with past-cultural predictions, quantum physics with non-hyped "new consciousness", while never pretending to predict. He weaves a non-denominational tapistry of possible outcomes for our collective consciousness, while never preaching."



Call me close-minded if you like, but after reading that review, a gun to my head wouldn't make me want to read Braden's book.

But Braden does have an outstanding mullett.

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