Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:06 AM Mar 2012

Chimp police break up fights: Swiss study

http://www.thelocal.ch/2787/20120309/


Photo credit: Claudia Rudolf von Rohr

Researchers at Walter Zoo in Gossau have found that chimpanzees will mediate disputes amongst peers in an effort to keep harmony in the group.

Anthropologists from the University of Zurich, led by Professor Carel van Schaik and Claudia Rudolf von Rohr, studied a group of chimps at the zoo for almost 600 hours across two years, and consulted records of chimp activity from three other zoos, news website the Huffington Post reported.

They found that certain impartial chimps would intervene in conflicts between fighting group members. The policing chimps showed neither bias to one or other side, nor any aggression.

“We were lucky enough to be able to observe a group of chimpanzees into which new females had recently been introduced and in which the ranking of the males was also being redefined,” Claudia Rudolf von Rohr, the lead author of the study, said in a statement.
6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Chimp police break up fights: Swiss study (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2012 OP
An interesting tidbit from the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #1
Every human clique has a peacemaker. n/t Gore1FL Mar 2012 #2
Often enough chimps succeed in hurting and even killing one another Silent3 Mar 2012 #3
You've missed my point ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #5
What I gathered from your post was that you thought the chimps' lack of use of force... Silent3 Mar 2012 #6
Someone needs to Photoshop the pepper-spray cop into that picture. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #4
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. An interesting tidbit from the article ...
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:18 AM
Mar 2012

[quote]They found that certain impartial chimps would intervene in conflicts between fighting group members. The policing chimps showed neither bias to one or other side, nor any aggression. [/quote]

So did chimps figure out that they don't need to use force to keep the peace; or did man forget, evolve out of that notion, or just never know?

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
3. Often enough chimps succeed in hurting and even killing one another
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:44 PM
Mar 2012

Whatever "policing" they have is far from 100% effective at always keeping the peace.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. You've missed my point ...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 12:31 PM
Mar 2012

I know there are killings within the chimp community; but, from the article, it doesn't seem to be the peace-keepers doing the killing, or even using force to enforce a peace, as with the human community.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
6. What I gathered from your post was that you thought the chimps' lack of use of force...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 01:02 PM
Mar 2012

...was something humans should learn from and emulate. Since their policing is less than completely effective, however, then there's no clear lesson to be learned from the chimps.

Human policing done with use of force isn't completely effective either, of course. Nothing in this one study of chimp behavior, however, provides a good reason to believe that, say, unilaterally disarming of all human police forces would produce a clearly beneficial outcome.

The study does, of course, provide fuel for the old aren't-humans-so-terrible-and-nature-so-wise narrative many people seem to love, but that's very different from providing sufficient data to inform human policy decisions on the operation of police forces.

Latest Discussions»Culture Forums»Science»Chimp police break up fig...