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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Sun May 4, 2014, 09:26 PM May 2014

Italy has officially suspended the laws of science, in the case

of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito.

The Italian court system should be the laughing stock of the world, and it would be, if more people understood the basis of the decisions against the students.

In the latest trial, the judge has decided it must be possible to selectively clean invisible DNA from a bloody crime scene -- because he is convinced Amanda managed to do it. And that's why she left no DNA, fingerprints, hair, fiber, etc. at the crime scene. All those traces of Rudy Guede, the murderer convicted in a separate trial, were just left by Amanda to frame him, while she carefully went through the bloody room and removed every trace of herself. But not with a mop, because the mop they found didn't show any trace of blood or DNA. With something -- they're just not sure what.

And what is even more proof of her devious skill is that she was the one who wielded the murder weapon -- the knife they never found. And yet not a single trace of physical evidence connected her to the scene, to the victim, or the victim to her. This just proves how incredibly skilled a cleaner-upper she is.

A female Dexter, maybe? Or maybe it was the pot smoking that gave her these super-powers.

http://gmancasefile.com/blog.html

The “motivation” document produced by Judge Nencini alleges that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were able to do something that no criminal in the history of mankind has ever before been able to accomplish: Selectively clean up their own invisible DNA, leaving only the DNA of the man they wished to “frame.” To do so, they obviously had to possess the power to see DNA with their naked eyes, know whose it was (something the first Italian court famously couldn’t do with microscopes), and remove only their own. And most importantly, they had to clean the DNA from a bloody room without leaving a mark where the blood had been disturbed. This is like removing the underlying primer coat from a car’s paint without disturbing the paint job itself. It’s like doing a heart transplant through a sweat gland. It’s like removing Jesus from DaVinci’s masterpiece, “The Last Supper,” without anybody noticing. Even Batman’s foes never achieved this level of sophistication. You have to give Amanda and Raffaele credit for ingenuity. Or the Italian court credit for imagination.

Here is a rough translation of the court's logic with my underlined comments.

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Italy has officially suspended the laws of science, in the case (Original Post) pnwmom May 2014 OP
They kicked science to the curb with the "earthquake trial" NickB79 May 2014 #1
They sure did. My only hope is that the European Court of Human Rights pnwmom May 2014 #2
She's a Witch! Xipe Totec May 2014 #3
Jesus Christ. Enthusiast May 2014 #4
The Italian justice system is based on the Napoleonic code Gothmog May 2014 #5
Well, supposedly they changed it and their constitution some years ago but pnwmom May 2014 #6

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
1. They kicked science to the curb with the "earthquake trial"
Mon May 5, 2014, 02:17 AM
May 2014
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/22/us-italy-earthquake-court-idUSBRE89L13V20121022

L'AQUILA, Italy (Reuters) - Six scientists and a government official were sentenced to six years in prison for manslaughter by an Italian court on Monday for failing to give adequate warning of an earthquake that killed more than 300 people in L'Aquila in 2009.

The seven, all members of a body called the National Commission for the Forecast and Prevention of Major Risks, were accused of negligence and malpractice in evaluating the danger and keeping the central city informed of the risks.

The case has drawn condemnation from international bodies including the American Geophysical Union, which said the risk of litigation may deter scientists from advising governments or even working in seismology and seismic risk assessments.

"The issue here is about miscommunication of science, and we should not be putting responsible scientists who gave measured, scientifically accurate information in prison," Richard Walters of Oxford University's Department of Earth Sciences said.


pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
2. They sure did. My only hope is that the European Court of Human Rights
Mon May 5, 2014, 02:44 AM
May 2014

is made up of people with much more sense. That's where Amanda and Raffaele will appeal if the high court finally ratifies the current verdict.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
5. The Italian justice system is based on the Napoleonic code
Mon May 5, 2014, 01:13 PM
May 2014

There is no presumption of innocence and the law of science do not necessarily apply

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
6. Well, supposedly they changed it and their constitution some years ago but
Mon May 5, 2014, 02:13 PM
May 2014

it isn't working out very well so far.

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