Why is this NOT a church doing politics: anti-Leadership-Conference-of-Women-Religious Catholic blog
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First: Cleansing Fire??? What's up with that in a church with some history for fire and violence? There's also a pro-Romney video posted here on DU with exactly this same kind of statements about fire and this election. I will find that link for you and post it downthread.
Also: Note a major metro-area, Rochester, NY, with an intense senate race.
Also: Then there's the Topic list, with most topics less than 20-30 posts, but the Progressive Drivel topic at over 500 posts and no other topics even remotely approaching that kind of activity.
And there's this article praising the bishops' response to the Leadership Conference of Women Religious and then a response from LCWR:
Reply from LCWR: while quotes are not yet widespread, USA Today did report that a Sister Simone Campbell attributes the slapdown to her groups support of Obamacare and of HHSs so-called compromise. But it seems more like a symptom of the disease than a cause of the cure.
Here is an excerpt: The Vatican announcement said that while there has been a great deal of work on the part of LCWR promoting issues of social justice in harmony with the churchs social doctrine, it is silent on the right to life from conception to natural death. It added that crucial issues like the churchs biblical view of family life and human sexuality, are not part of the LCWR agenda in a way that promotes church teaching. Moreover, occasional public statements by the LCWR that disagree with or challenge positions taken by the bishops, who are the churchs authentic teachers of faith and morals, are not compatible with its purpose. The LCWR also said that assertions made by speakers at LCWR conferences are not necessarily their own. The Vatican called that response inadequate and unsupported by the facts . Sister Simone Campbell, Networks executive director, said she was stunned that the Vatican document would single out her group, probably over its support for health care reform. It concerns me that political differences in a democratic country would result in such a censure and investigation, Campbell said. Campbell also strongly defended LCWR. I know LCWR has faithfully-served women religious in the United States and worked hard to support the life of women religious and our service to the people of God.
Is the blog Cleansing Fire, referenced above, an example of a church engaged in political activity?
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patrice
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(36,286 posts)to attack "the Church", i.e the bishop of Rochester. If the diocese was paying salaries, then it would be "the Church" engaging in political activity.
mykpart
(3,879 posts)I do have an explanation for the cleansing fire metaphor. There are several references in the Bible to fire as a cleansing agent in the refining of gold and silver. And there is a Catholic hymn with the line, "In his wisdom he strengthens us, like gold that's tested in fire." And then of course there are the tongues of fire, symbolizing the Holy Spirit, that appear over the heads of the apostles on Pentecost, as told in the Acts of the Apostles. So, understood from a Christian's point of view, the fire reference is actually quite apt.