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Related: About this forum10 surprising facts about atheism
By Julian Baggini
January 15th 2016
Atheism is the absence of belief that God, and other deities, exist. It is difficult to ascertain how many of the worlds population are atheist as surveys dont tend to differentiate between the irreligious and atheist. However, it is clear from polls that Europe and East Asia are the regions with the highest proportion of non-believers. In 2015, over 60% of people in China said they were atheist in a survey. It is also clear that numbers of atheists are growing across the world. How much do you know about this belief system? Julian Baggini, author of Atheism: A Very Short Introduction, tells us the ten things we never knew about atheism:
1. The name is an historical accident as atheists have to be defined as contrasting to our historically theistic culture.
2. A is not anti; not all atheists are anti-religion.
3. Atheism is not necessarily dogmatic.
4. Being an atheist means that you believe the balance of evidence shows that God does not exist. This is not the same as saying that you are 100% certain God does not exist
http://blog.oup.com/2016/01/10-facts-about-atheism/
Number 4 is incorrect. Atheism does not require any particular path to nonbelief. See Number 9.
randys1
(16,286 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)well in that case
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)I have forty years of evidence that atheists exist: myself.
There are millions of people in this world that have no need or requirement to believe in any invisible superheros.
randys1
(16,286 posts)and while I do not believe in god I am not part of some movement or group or classification
unless there is also one for not believing in leprechauns
That was my point
Certain people need for atheists to be seen as a group, or as radicals pushing an agenda
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)The lack of a belief in any gods leaves a lot of ground for major differences in opinion about just about everything, since non-belief isn't a belief system though atheists do believe that gods don't exist, or at least they believe there is no evidence for any gods.
Some right-wing atheists try to make atheism about more than just a non-belief in any gods, but they certainly don't have anything to do with me. I have virtually nothing in common with them.
randys1
(16,286 posts)pro religion or anti.
I try and not have a strong opinion about my not believing in leprechauns and god.
However, I may believe in Bigfoot and UFO's, for real
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Strange seeing those words coming from someone like you.
underpants
(182,792 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)We are all born atheists. No belief in anything is required.
edhopper
(33,575 posts)I think he is trying to say that atheist are not 100% sure there is no God, but see no reason to believe in one.
It is the "know there is no God" or "don't believe there is a God" which has been discussed here.
He is talking to believers and trying to explain some misconceptions about atheists.
He was talking about the difference between atheism and agnosticism, if you watch the video.
As I said, badly worded, but I don't think he is saying all atheist come to it from analyzing the evidence.
just my 2 cents.
rug
(82,333 posts)The more prevalent basis these days is the lack of evidence argument.
However, classical atheism was based on philosophy, e.g., Epicurus' riddle. I still think that is the most devastating indictment of the notion of god(s).
but i really think he is talking to people unfamiliar with atheism who say things like "How can you be 100% sure there is no God". I have heard this myself and it is definitely a fact about atheism that atheists all aren't 100% certain.
As I said, he should have said it differently, but he was comparing atheist to agnostics.
If he had said "atheist look at things and on balance say they think there is no god, not that they are 100%" it would have sounded better.
The final takeaway is, you don't have to be 100% sure to be an atheist.
As for Epicurus, there is evidence to support his assertion, so it is part of the whole thing.
rug
(82,333 posts)I disagree with your take on Epicurus though. The only evidence he sees is the eternal one of "evil". He concludes there is no reconciliation of that with the notion of a god. Which is philosophy. He is not using it to disprove the existence of god(s) but to disprove the very notion of god(s).
edhopper
(33,575 posts)I don't think he believed in any supernatural beings, good or evil. He was a materialist AFAIK, but it's a whole other discussion.
And yes i think this is about modern misconceptions. #4 is wrong, but only because of his wording not his intent.