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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:11 PM Mar 2012

People trying to “save” you are intrusive, bullying, arrogant, and obnoxious.


It’s a way of trying to control/bully you, under the guise of “helping” you, doing
something “good.”

I hope at least one of them, somewhere, reads this.


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People trying to “save” you are intrusive, bullying, arrogant, and obnoxious. (Original Post) raccoon Mar 2012 OP
Yep rrneck Mar 2012 #1
Personal history zipplewrath Mar 2012 #2
Ain't that the truth. rrneck Mar 2012 #4
What I was taught was "don't offer something someone isn't asking for"... saras Mar 2012 #3
I always loved the camparison Hitchens made about it. deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #5

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. Yep
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:16 PM
Mar 2012

There's really nothing wrong with inviting others to share what amounts to a good feeling, but when that offer is coupled with christian theology it brings with it an implied threat: "Feel good about something or burn in hell for eternity".

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Personal history
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mar 2012

They really ignore the fact that a tremondous number of people have already "heard the word" and heard it in settings that were abusive in some sense. Abusive parents that used faith as a pretext for their abuse. Schools that used faith as a context for harsh treatment of nonconformists. Relationships that pivoted on issues of faith and gender roles. Many people have a wide variety of experiences that bring up very harsh emotional reactions. So there they are walking down the street and suddenly have some "bible thumper" wanting to witness to them. It isn't surprising they get hostile responses. Faith is a very personal issue and not something alot of people want to discuss with random strangers.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
4. Ain't that the truth.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:04 PM
Mar 2012

"The word" is kinda hard to miss in this country. It has its own media empire. I suspect most people recognize proselytizing for what it is, a system of self serving indoctrination for believers that has little to do with actually "swelling the ranks".

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
3. What I was taught was "don't offer something someone isn't asking for"...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 12:42 PM
Mar 2012

...but that, of course, violates the whole RATIONALE of proselytizing, which is that you have secret knowledge that others can't possibly know except by your telling them.

If someone offers me THEIR way of life, without being asked, I feel that I have the right to offer MY way of life (or any selected parts of it) in return.

deacon_sephiroth

(731 posts)
5. I always loved the camparison Hitchens made about it.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Something about how it's alright for religious types to harass you on your death bed about converting, but if Dakins, Harris, and Hitchens went around telling the sick and dying that they better convert to Atheism, it's their last chance to not die an ignorant slave, they'd have them locked up.

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