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moobu2

(4,822 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 04:45 AM Mar 2012

Praying for 'justice at the court' and against 'Obamacare'

They forget to mention that under the federal policy, no religious employers would be required to offer contraception and religious institutions would be completely exempt from the so called mandate.

Pro-lifers are planning to hold a nationwide prayer vigil for the upcoming Supreme Court arguments on ObamaCare.

ObamaCare opponents will lay 3,300 flowers around the Supreme Court as a "prophetic witness" to remind justices of the children who die from abortion every day. As part of the "Justice at the Court" project, the pro-lifers will also meet together and pray Sunday, March 25.

Pat Mahoney, head of the Christian Defense Coalition, suggests the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will lead to government-financed abortion.

He is concerned about "the mandates that Health and Human Services has put on Catholic institutions regarding covering abortion-inducing drugs and sterilizations in healthcare coverage for their employees. In other words," he says, "the government telling religious organizations and institutions how they are to live their faith."


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Praying for 'justice at the court' and against 'Obamacare' (Original Post) moobu2 Mar 2012 OP
But it's OK for "religious organizations and institutions", mr blur Mar 2012 #1
Ah, the useless, self-aggrandizing delusion known as prayer. stopbush Mar 2012 #2
Religious institutions can't have it both ways. LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #3
Also, they should pay taxes like the rest of us - mr blur Mar 2012 #4
 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
1. But it's OK for "religious organizations and institutions",
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 06:24 AM
Mar 2012

to tell the rest of us how we are to live our lives?

The usual double standard...

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
2. Ah, the useless, self-aggrandizing delusion known as prayer.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:33 AM
Mar 2012

I'm sure this Christian circle jerk will be as effective as were Rick Perry & fellow Christian idiots' prayers for rain in Texas.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
3. Religious institutions can't have it both ways.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 10:56 AM
Mar 2012

If they want to control predominantly secular organizations, they have to fit in with the law of the land for all people. If they don't want state interference, then they should confine their organizational role to their specifically religious communities.

This is not nearly such a problem in the UK, though it exists. Although I have always been pro-disestablishment, I sometimes wonder whether the existence of an Established Church actually leads to greater acceptance of church power being constrained by state law.

Churches should have their own freedom to act as they choose (short of criminal activities) but they should not have the power to determine the rules for all.

I am absolutely sick of the political 'pro-life' movement. I am not talking here about those who are anti-abortion as a single issue, or those who have an absolutely consistent pro-life orientation: anti-abortion, anti-war, anti-poverty, anti-death penalty, vegetarian, etc. I disagree with them, but decent people can disagree on such issues. But those who use it as a justification for all-round hard-right theocratic views in general, and for opposing the universal provision of healthcare in particular, are scum as far as I'm concerned. And the influence of these hard-right types in my own backyard has increased in the last 2 or 3 years, and I'm sick of them.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
4. Also, they should pay taxes like the rest of us -
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:17 AM
Mar 2012

Unless, of course, Lord Snooty* is willing to agree that I needn't pay any tax because of my deep faith that Big Yak (Peace be upon His Stable and All Who Find Sanctuary There) watches over all of us from on high.

(* Cameron, for those outside this Sceptic Isle)

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