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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:26 AM

Maine Hunter Shoots his Foot Off

Local news reports

A hunter is recovering after accidentally shooting himself in the foot.

According to the Maine Warden Service 37-year-old Andrew Knight, of Rome, was returning from the woods Saturday when he rested his 12-gauge shotgun on his left foot.

Knight told officials the gun then discharged, firing a shot into his foot.

Gun-rights folks always accuse us of fearing inanimate objects, but when it suits their purposes, they say things like "the gun discharged." The truth is we don't fear inanimate objects, but they love to blame them instead of the man.

Guns don't discharge by themselves. So this irresponsible and reckless guy made at least two mistakes. That's always the case. Whenever someone is hurt in a so-called gun accident, at least two of the 4 Rules of Gun Safety have been violated.

The reason One Strike You're Out must apply to cases like this is in all probability, this was not his very first act of negligence, he's 37-years-old, he's been doing stuff like this his whole life. Placing the muzzle of a loaded weapon on your foot is an unacceptable breach of safety. Unless a guy like this is disarmed, this will probably not be his last.

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Cross posted at Mikeb302000

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mikeb302000 Nov 2012 OP
AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #1
oldhippydude Nov 2012 #2
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #12
petronius Nov 2012 #3
mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #49
petronius Nov 2012 #52
Warpy Nov 2012 #4
Straw Man Nov 2012 #5
Speck Tater Nov 2012 #6
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #7
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #8
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #14
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #16
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #17
Glassunion Nov 2012 #19
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #20
Glassunion Nov 2012 #27
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #29
Glassunion Nov 2012 #32
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #35
Glassunion Nov 2012 #39
PavePusher Nov 2012 #47
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #22
Glassunion Nov 2012 #23
discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #21
hack89 Nov 2012 #9
mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #50
gejohnston Nov 2012 #51
hack89 Nov 2012 #54
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #55
TheMadMonk Nov 2012 #53
slackmaster Nov 2012 #10
Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #11
Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #13
JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #18
4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #31
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #15
Glassunion Nov 2012 #33
PavePusher Nov 2012 #44
ileus Nov 2012 #24
glacierbay Nov 2012 #25
yourout Nov 2012 #26
DrDan Nov 2012 #28
ileus Nov 2012 #41
4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #30
SDjack Nov 2012 #34
doc03 Nov 2012 #36
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #37
doc03 Nov 2012 #42
PavePusher Nov 2012 #46
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #38
Glassunion Nov 2012 #40
Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #43
ileus Nov 2012 #45
Remmah2 Nov 2012 #48

Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:36 AM

1. "Gun-rights folks always accuse us of fearing inanimate objects," Your straw-man approach is

 

getting old.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:46 AM

2. don't know about being disarmed..

but at this point he has been disfooted!!

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:51 AM

12. LOL.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:46 AM

3. A one-strike system where the punishment is denial of a civil liberty, and the thing earning the

strike isn't even a crime? But it's OK, because he must have done other bad stuff in the past? Absolutely unacceptable, no matter the topic...

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Response to petronius (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:53 AM

49. Personal responsibility is lacking in your world view. nt

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Response to mikeb302000 (Reply #49)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:18 AM

52. It's not about personal responsibility, it's about law and the justice system

I maintain that any system in which a right or liberty is denied, based on a one-strike (or three-strike or zero tolerance) system, where the strikes aren't crimes or even deliberate actions necessarily, is unacceptable. But I'm curious: do you support that sort of draconian legal standard in general, or is this just a but-guns-are-different! sort of thing for you?

As for me, I'm pretty much against mandatory one-strike, three-strike, zero-tolerance notions in general: they seem to create more inequity and injustice than any problems they solve...

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:48 AM

4. You're right, people who are proven to be menaces to themselves

and others shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. The danger is just too great, it's too easy to do real damage with one, unlike weapons requiring closer contact.

It's why I don't own them. My eyesight isn't the best and I'd be a real menace with a gun.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:55 AM

5. More lies.

Gun-rights folks always accuse us of fearing inanimate objects, but when it suits their purposes, they say things like "the gun discharged."

Read any gun forums lately? The mantra is "There are no accidental discharges; only negligent ones."

So you're lying again. Surprise, surprise.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:06 AM

6. He must be a Republican. They're so good at shooting themselves in the foot. nt

 

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:16 AM

7. Funny

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:17 AM

8. Food for thought

"Unless a guy like this is disarmed, this will probably not be his last."


Well... the man does have another foot...

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:25 AM

14. He still has a leg to stand on.

 

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:45 AM

16. I hate it when it does that.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:56 AM

17. He was probably hopping mad though. nt

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:04 PM

19. Probably because his insurance company is making him foot the bill.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:10 PM

20. Half off his next pair of hunting boots. nt

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:49 PM

27. The shoe is definitely on the other foot in this case.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:01 PM

29. This whole thread is going in circles. nt

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:11 PM

32. We'll get back on our feet again.

Maybe we just got off on the wrong foot?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:52 PM

35. I'll bet he was stumped by his stupidity. nt

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:32 PM

39. Not to mention now he literally has one foot in the grave.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:22 PM

47. Last man standing wins.... n/t

 

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:28 PM

22. There's sure to be...

...a footnote in his policy renewal notice.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:33 PM

23. I wouldn't touch his policy with a ten-foot pole

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:26 PM

21. :)

I'm here all week!

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:28 AM

9. Would you apply the same one strike standard to driver's licenses?

isn't it time to deal with the carnage on the highways?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:56 AM

50. This is the Gun Control and RKBA thread.

Of course it's badly named, it should be the "Anti-gun control and RKBA" thread. Even the moderators are biased gun rights fanatics.

But if you want to talk about cars, you're in the wrong place.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:01 AM

51. it is about being constant

especially since cars are more destructive to society and the planet.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:52 AM

54. So you support dual standards - got it. nt

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Response to mikeb302000 (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:34 PM

55. so, the guy had bad gun control, right? that is how this thread meets the SoP.

still trying to get the hang of this place . . .

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Response to hack89 (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 03:19 AM

53. In the case of stunts like driving around boom gates. YES!

 

Some acts are just too egregiously reckless or stupid, to permit idiots a second chance if they survive the first.

Instant disqualification and a full circus performance of hoop jumping to requalify.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:35 AM

10. Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools

 

Keep your booger hook off the bang switch, and never point a firearm at anything you aren't willing to destroy.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:42 AM

11. LOL, no, that's bullshit (again), Mike.

 

Gun-rights folks always accuse us of fearing inanimate objects, but when it suits their purposes, they say things like "the gun discharged." The truth is we don't fear inanimate objects, but they love to blame them instead of the man.

Most gun enthusiasts call this sort of thing an "ND" - Negligent Discharge.

The shotgun didn't rest itself on the guy's foot.

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:55 AM

13. Ol' Mike 302. Looking for new ways to disarm you.

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Response to Atypical Liberal (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:17 PM

18. No, the shotgun didn't rest itself on the guy's foot

Nor did the shotgun chamber a round by itself, take itself off safety, or pull its own trigger.

It takes a whole string of moronic moves to have an accident like this. So many dumb moves that I wonder if alcohol might have been involved.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:10 PM

31. "So many dumb moves that I wonder if alcohol might have been involved."

 

That would be my guess as well.

Man get's drunk, crashes plane: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, crashes car: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, walks in to traffic: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.
Man get's drunk, falls in lake and drowns: man is an idiot and shouldn't have been drinking.

Man get's drunk, shoots foot off: OMG BAN GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:26 AM

15. At least he doesen't shoot his mouth off. nt

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:12 PM

33. Does he have a habit of putting his foot in his mouth?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #33)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:16 PM

44. Not any more, if he's standing.... n/t

 

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:36 PM

24. Hunted since 1978....yet to lose a body part.

Went twice this past weekend, zero incidents. Just like the past 34 years....uneventful boring if you will.


Didn't even see a stupid coyote to practice on, much less a deer.

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Response to ileus (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:39 PM

25. Same here

 

been hunting since I was a kid, never had an ND.

Here, I'll give you a coyote.

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Response to ileus (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:44 PM

26. No body parts but I did accidently shoot a hay wagon. Could not see the ....

steel upright threw the scope as it was under the line of sight. Put a nice hole in it while the deer stood there a looked at me like....
"What the hell is that guy doing"?

I will be hearing about it from my son till I am dead and buried.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:55 PM

28. karma, once again

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Response to DrDan (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:39 PM

41. Karma as in being a gun owner is bad?

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:09 PM

30. If it's any reassurance you can sleep safely knowing he will at most do this one more time.

 

Guns don't discharge by themselves. So this irresponsible and reckless guy made at least two mistakes. That's always the case. Whenever someone is hurt in a so-called gun accident, at least two of the 4 Rules of Gun Safety have been violated.


So . . .guns don't kill people then?


The reason One Strike You're Out must apply to cases like this is in all probability, this was not his very first act of negligence, he's 37-years-old, he's been doing stuff like this his whole life. Placing the muzzle of a loaded weapon on your foot is an unacceptable breach of safety. Unless a guy like this is disarmed, this will probably not be his last.


Naturally this one strike rule applies to any dangerous devices. Like cars. Or swimming pools. Or prescription meds. Or gas stoves. Or . . .

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:27 PM

34. Basic error --

he should have rested the gun barrel on the end of his big toe. That would greatly limited the amount of tissue blown off. He will remember that the next time he goes hunting.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:56 PM

36. I remember a story last year where a Labrador Retreiver shot his master, shit happens.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:58 PM

37. Does the one strike law apply to the Lab?

 

nt

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:14 PM

42. I wouldn't sell the Lab any guns. But there are probably some gun

advocates that think he has 2nd Amendment rights anyway.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #42)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:18 PM

46. I dunno, sounds like a shaggy dog story to me... n/t

 

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:59 PM

38. One thing is for sure.

 

That hunter will never kick this thread..........................

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Response to Remmah2 (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:37 PM

40. He was going to, but he got cold feet... er foot.

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Response to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:58 PM

43. How Does This Thread meet the SoP for this group --

Statement of Purpose

Discuss gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:18 PM

45. Spam? BS?

The op believes this person is a criminal and should be fined, and his basic human rights removed.

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Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:18 PM

48. Maybe no one thinks the OP is worth discussing.

 

No content and no substance.

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