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Got my CCW renewal today (Original Post) Meiko Apr 2012 OP
cool story bro. I renewed my driver's license last year. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #1
Forgive me Meiko Apr 2012 #3
Maybe you should post that in the car forum. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #18
i'll do that. and i expect a raucous response. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #23
Now you can walk tall and stand your ground... rfranklin Apr 2012 #2
Not really Meiko Apr 2012 #4
Amen, brother (sister)? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #9
Heck, OC is the way to go. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #5
Yes, it is..... PavePusher Apr 2012 #7
Aw, c'mon - a nice bike ride in a park TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #15
When I OC on my rides through Saguaro National Park, it's not the gun getting my "juices flowing"... PavePusher Apr 2012 #16
Your gun probably weighs more than your bike Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #26
I have pics at home, I'll try to remember to post one tonight. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #27
Sure is. mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #11
Wondered where you were....and found you in Arizona??? fadedrose Apr 2012 #24
" It really gets the juices flowing." ...especially with the anti-gun ilk aikoaiko Apr 2012 #12
You didn't have to go in to have a mental eval? any traffic citations lately? ileus Apr 2012 #6
Nope Meiko Apr 2012 #13
I didn't know they were still available. Thanks for the information. slackmaster Apr 2012 #8
Definitely still available in AZ, and... mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #10
True Meiko Apr 2012 #14
Main benefit being, the reciprocity in other states S_B_Jackson Apr 2012 #17
Shoot. I thought you were going to say you ripped it apart because Hoyt Apr 2012 #19
They are an answer... Clames Apr 2012 #20
Deep. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #25
guns are the question Grasshopper gejohnston Apr 2012 #21
Always good for a laugh hoyt rl6214 Apr 2012 #22

Tunkamerica

(4,444 posts)
1. cool story bro. I renewed my driver's license last year.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:19 AM
Apr 2012

I got my car inspected last week. Totally awesome.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
4. Not really
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:00 AM
Apr 2012

It makes more sense to retreat from a bad situation then it does to press on and force a deadly confrontation. I would never harm anyone to save my property anyway, just doesn't make sense.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
16. When I OC on my rides through Saguaro National Park, it's not the gun getting my "juices flowing"...
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:45 PM
Apr 2012

it's the roller-coaster ride up and down the hills, the scenery and the wildlife, and my carbon-fiber-frame racing bike. The gun excites me just as much as my seat bag with my other emergency tools (that is to say, not at all). Unless needed, it's just additional training weight.

But hey, whatever gets you... motivated.

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
26. Your gun probably weighs more than your bike
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:09 PM
Apr 2012

not to mention all your other "emergency tools". I'd love to take a pic

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
24. Wondered where you were....and found you in Arizona???
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:01 PM
Apr 2012

Going back to Fiction where I belong, See ya soon & have a good trip.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
12. " It really gets the juices flowing." ...especially with the anti-gun ilk
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:20 AM
Apr 2012

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ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. You didn't have to go in to have a mental eval? any traffic citations lately?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:59 AM
Apr 2012

Maybe past due on your homeowners?

Forgot to rake your yard last week?

Have an old unused rake beside your house?

Drive an SUV?

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
13. Nope
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:50 AM
Apr 2012

I have had a permit for years. I keep it mainly because I don't need a background check if I buy another weapon, saves on nonsense.

mvccd1000

(1,534 posts)
10. Definitely still available in AZ, and...
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:14 AM
Apr 2012

... I believe they are available in the other states that don't require a permission slip from the government, as well. In AZ, the permit is still needed to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol (if you can wade through the blood running on the floors), or to purchase a firearm from an FFL without an additional background check (if you can't push your way through the crowds of terrorists buying them at the gun show with no permits), or to carry in other states that have reciprocity agreements with Arizona.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
17. Main benefit being, the reciprocity in other states
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:41 PM
Apr 2012

I know that it's been interesting to compare the differences in the class composition when I've taken my two renewal certification courses.

In my initial class in 2002, only about 20 people - mostly male with 1 woman, 1 African American, and 2 hispanics (father and son)...3/4ths of the class were renewing their permits, the rest (like myself) were newbies.

First renewal class in 2006, about 30 people split abut 50/50 between renewals and first-time qualifiers - 8 women, 4 African Americans, 8 Hispanic (including one woman), 2 Asians, and the remainder white guys like myself.

Last year's class: 45 people about 1/3 renewals, 2/3 initial applicants. 15 women, 8 African American (2 women), 12 Hispanic (3 women), 5 Asians, with the remainder Caucasians. The class room was packed.

So what I've seen and been pleased with is increased female participation and increasing diversity in the pool of Concealed Carriers.

One quirk of Texas' CHL law is that if one qualifies with a revolver, one may only carry a revolver; if with a semi-automatic pistol, one may carry either a revolver or semi-auto. So the course instructor was encouraging them to qualify with semi-automatic pistols - not because there's a dang thing wrong with revolvers, but just so that they would have a choice later on.

Of the 8 or so who opted to switch to semi-autos, they had to borrow from other shooters who were willing to loan pistols...the range offered 25 rounds of ammo to each of them to allow them to shoot and familiarize themselves with the semi-autos and fully half of the other shooters offered the use of their pistols. Those owners who loaned pistols were asked to load magazines for the people who switched to semi's during qualification shooting. I loaned a Sig P225 to the cause

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Shoot. I thought you were going to say you ripped it apart because
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:54 PM
Apr 2012

you realized guns are not the answer.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
21. guns are the question Grasshopper
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:33 AM
Apr 2012

and essay ones at that. Multiple choice answers are always incomplete, making them wrong by omission.
When Sarah Brady said, "I don't believe gun owners have rights." the sage must ask "does that include her son?"

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