A New Report Shows How Hard It Is to Keep Guns Away from Domestic Abusers

[SecularMotion]

In the broader scheme of American's gun problems, domestic violence might not seem like the most urgent piece of the puzzle. After all, the United States bore witness to hundreds of public mass shootings last year, including high-profile terrorist attacks in Charleston and San Bernardino. But a new report from two gun control groups serves as a reminder that domestic violence actually accounts for a huge share of gun deaths in America. These incidents are also some of the easiest to predict and prevent, with abusers leaving a trail of 911 calls and other hints that trouble might be coming. And while policymakers have crafted laws in hopes of keep guns out of the hands of abusers, the report suggests they're riddled with loopholes and bedeviled by poor enforcement.

The authors—the Consortium for Risk-Based Firearm Policy and Prosecutors Against Gun Violence—offer a prescription for how to plug up those gaps. The report serves as a solid goal post for states with lax laws and those struggling to enforce decent ones. But even the folks behind the recommendations concede they won't tackle domestic gun violence alone, which speaks to the ongoing and existential challenge posed by the patchwork of weak gun laws in America.

After all, domestic gun violence is "a multi-pronged problem," according to Hollye Dexter, an activist with Women Against Gun Violence. "We've got to come at it from a lot of different directions."

Domestic gun violence often involves a man killing his current or former partner or family, and almost never makes the news like random public shootings. But these tragedies take a toll: Of 2,707 female homicide victims in 2013, nearly half were related to or involved with the killer. Going by recent FBI data, over half of such "partner-related" murders would have been shootings. According to the gun control advocacy group Every Town for Gun Safety, domestic incidents also made up a disproportionate number—57 percent—of mass shootings under the FBI definition (at least four people shot dead in one incident) between 2009 and 2015. Eighty-one percent of the victims in those shootings were women and children.

http://www.vice.com/read/a-new-report-shows-just-how-hard-it-is-to-keep-guns-away-from-domestic-abusers

[rjsquirrel]

1. The Venn diagram

of raging domestic abusers and gun nutter RKBA open carry middle aged impotent losers will show significant overlap -- in fact whenever I see a civilian man with an open carried gun I assume -- for my own safety-- that he is a violent, abupsive, unstable, ignorant, dangerous person. After growing up in the south I've learned it's a good assumption.

These men -- mostly out of shape, badly educated, and implacably resentful -- are the heart of the gun nutter constituency. We all know it is about their masculinity, not the constitution or self defense.

[DonP]

3. Wow! Nothing like a little stereotyping on DU to build your "cred"

The Venn Diagram in your head is irrelevant to reality. No wonder gun control fans never get anything accomplished and keep sinking lower and lower.

But, as most bigots discover, it's far easier to just treat what you consider your opposition as something less than human and evil.

It worked for a lot of Sheriff's in the South back in the '50's and '60's for a while and is still working for the GOP. Nice company to keep.

So keep up the insults and I'm sure you'll sway lots of people to your way of thinking with name calling. Being ignorant, insulting and condescending is always an effective argument and it's been working so well for your side too.

[Eleanors38]

11. Makes you wonder where rjsquirrel fits in his own diagram.

[DonP]

12. As a separate sattelite circle, orbiting all those lesser beings.

[GGJohn]

4. Jeez dude,

you really need to seek professional help with these delusions of yours.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

5. I don't want to be contradictory but...

...well, actually I do. I don't think gunz cause anger and I hear lots of assaults especially the DV type start with arguments and anger.

I'm worried. I see a lot of anger among those control types.

[DonP]

6. "arguments and anger" ... and alcohol

The overlay of domestic violence most closely coincides with alcohol abuse that fuels the anger and arguments.

Our control minded friends would rather ignore anything that fuels the violence. Easier to focus on the instrumentality than the cause.

In other words, business as usual for the control folks.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

7. First I thought those control folks are on to something

Banning alcohol would really drop the DUI problems a lot but since DUI is only one aspect of distracted and impaired driving, what's really needed is a ban on cars.

[ileus]

9. venn diagram.....Mike is that you???

[Eleanors38]

10. Is that Venn Diesel?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

14. Domestic abuse is about control and abusers fear their victims gaining autonomy.

[pipoman]

2. New report shows how hard it is to keep drugs, alcohol, weapons, cigarettes

Pornography, tattoo equipment, and a host of other contraband out of the most secure prisons in the United States....

...and the stupidity of some who believe it is possible to ban anything whatsoever out of existence in a free society...dummies will be dummies....

[ileus]

8. The number one reason why women shouldn't leave self defense to their partner.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

13. Kinda sounds like what RKBA advocates have been saying all these years --

Gun control never disarms criminals, only their victims.