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ileus

(15,396 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:00 PM Nov 2014

82yo rude gunhumper shoots innocent visitor.

http://www.wdam.com/story/27159963/elderly-man-shoots-intruder-who-kicks-in-his-door

"She beat on the door. I heard her knocking you know. I wouldn't let her in," said the 82-year-old. "Well, I keep this 38 under my pillow you know. I was in the bed. So when this door opened, I made three shots up here and shot her yeah."


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Didn't he realize it was time to give up his stuff to a more deserving person. 82yo being impolite to society and visitors like that...

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82yo rude gunhumper shoots innocent visitor. (Original Post) ileus Nov 2014 OP
Gunhumper? Why, I'd say we got us a gen-u-ine Ammosexual there, ileus! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1
The NRA made him do it Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #2
Just mention NRA, and you can get this in GD!! Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #5
I guess he couldn't just yell... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2014 #3
Weird story Warpy Nov 2014 #4
What could plausibly the "other side of the story" of a forcible home invasion? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2014 #6
For all you know, they could be church people Warpy Nov 2014 #10
Seriously? That says a great deal about you Lurks Often Nov 2014 #7
82yo racist bigiot NRA member. ileus Nov 2014 #8
It says nothing about me Warpy Nov 2014 #9
I wonder if you extended that courtesy to Wilson or Zimmerman, Lurks Often Nov 2014 #11
I did. Had he not lied about that blowout fracture Warpy Nov 2014 #13
Didn't follow the trial did you? gejohnston Nov 2014 #15
Thanks for proving my point Lurks Often Nov 2014 #19
Do you apply such standard sarisataka Nov 2014 #12
If she was too drunk to remember, she was too drunk to consent Warpy Nov 2014 #14
So your answer is sarisataka Nov 2014 #16
No one has asked any questions. Warpy Nov 2014 #17
I did sarisataka Nov 2014 #18
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Gunhumper? Why, I'd say we got us a gen-u-ine Ammosexual there, ileus!
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:07 PM
Nov 2014

See what I did there? I used a funny word to shit on gunowners, funny, right?

I wish I had a cartoon! Derp!



Actually, I feel for the old guy, apparently a repeat victim of women "bringing him meals".

I guess he doesn't have family to help him along, I hate people who prey on the elderly.

K/R

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
2. The NRA made him do it
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:16 PM
Nov 2014

or the gun just fired by itself from the table.

Hope she does not break into anymore houses.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
10. For all you know, they could be church people
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:01 PM
Nov 2014

who were really concerned when they couldn't arouse him.

Then again, I suppose anyone who uses a Holy Gun is in the right all the time.

Personally, I wait for both sides of a story.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
7. Seriously? That says a great deal about you
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:41 AM
Nov 2014

Two people try to commit a home invasion on a 82 year old man and you take the side of the criminals.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
8. 82yo racist bigiot NRA member.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 10:08 AM
Nov 2014

There's the difference... Remember guns are the only bad "guy" in stories like these.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
9. It says nothing about me
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 12:58 PM
Nov 2014

except I wait for both sides of a story, while you are ready to hang them high without hearing it.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
11. I wonder if you extended that courtesy to Wilson or Zimmerman,
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:19 PM
Nov 2014

I'm thinking probably not.

And the article makes it sound pretty clear cut, she tried to kick down the door, succeeded and got shot for it, which is why she will be released to police custody once she is released from the hospital where she will join her boyfriend in jail.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
13. I did. Had he not lied about that blowout fracture
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:32 PM
Nov 2014

I might have been more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Forensic evidence seems to be going both ways.

Zimmerman? He was contradicted six ways from Sunday by eyewitness and forensic evidence and Martin never gave his side of the story because Zimmerman shot him.

This gal will be charged with B&E because even if she was there with good intentions, she failed to call the cops for a welfare check. Then again, POC are generally disinclined to call the cops for any reason, understandably, so if she's a POC that is another factor to consider.

Again, I'm glad the old coot's aim is so bad. This is better than the usual gun story because everybody is alive.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
15. Didn't follow the trial did you?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:04 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Tue Nov 4, 2014, 02:16 AM - Edit history (1)

I did. Had he not lied about that blowout fracture
Where did Wilson make a claim about a blow out fracture? I didn't see where he claimed that. Most likely some full of shit blogger made it up. Some blogger made that claim with an x-ray from a different state. We also don't know if it actually happened or not.

Zimmerman? He was contradicted six ways from Sunday by eyewitness and forensic evidence and Martin never gave his side of the story because Zimmerman shot him
Did we watch the same trial? None of the witnesses contradicted his claim. In fact, he or they pretty much backed his story up. Forensics certainly did. I watched it first hand.
BTW, this is from a liberal source.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/2/192138/6469/Colo_News/George-Zimmerman-Trial-Walking-Back-the-Damage

This was very enlightening. The relevant part starts at 1:16:00
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
19. Thanks for proving my point
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 08:34 PM
Nov 2014

All of the evidence regarding the Wilson-Brown shooting is not out yet, so anyone who has decided Wilson is guilty has chosen to jump to a conclusion based on insufficent evidence, incomplete reporting and their inherent bias.

As for the Zimmerman trial, apparently you didn't watch it, virtually every witness who testified, excluding those with a personal relationship to either Zimmerman or Martin, supported Zimmerman. The forensic eveidence overwhelmingly supported Zimmerman.

sarisataka

(18,631 posts)
12. Do you apply such standard
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:48 PM
Nov 2014

to crimes that don't involve a gun?

-simple theft, he could have been hungry
-domestic abuse, she may have attacked him and he was just defending himself
-rape, maybe she agreed to sex before they started drinking and she just doesn't remember

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
14. If she was too drunk to remember, she was too drunk to consent
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:35 PM
Nov 2014

so you're shit out of luck there, buddy.

simple theft--not if it was his property to begin with

domestic abuse--it can be mutual but men do a lot more damage and cops go by who's hurt the worst.

Both sides always have a story to tell. That's why we have trials with juries instead of simply taking people out and lynching them.

sarisataka

(18,631 posts)
16. So your answer is
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

No

In those other cases you know a crime was committed based on evidence surrounding the incident but a door being kicked in needs context to determine if a crime was being committed.

Should the elderly gentleman waited until he was beat to death before defending himself?

sarisataka

(18,631 posts)
18. I did
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

Post #12

No lynching. I just think "the other side" of this story needs to be told in court.

I don't see where the homeowner did anything wrong. I think people should ring the bell, not kick the door in, if they wish to talk to you

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