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Safe Storage (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 OP
Can't speak to this model. The biggest problem is definition. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #1
Maybe more than anyone wants to consider but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #7
THANK YOU! BigAlanMac Sep 2014 #2
I hope you ordered the larger of the two sizes offered. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #4
You're welcome n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #8
Hoplophobes would say it's far too cheap, needs to cost at least $1,000.00 NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
As I said above... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #9
Nope.... Sassysdad Sep 2014 #5
Thanks n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #10
Yes, I ordered the large one BigAlanMac Sep 2014 #6
That's about where I would be with it. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #11
Thank you DashOneBravo Sep 2014 #12
Yes, the cable changes the equation. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #13
No problem discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2014 #14
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
1. Can't speak to this model. The biggest problem is definition.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

Will any law seek to affirmatively define safe storage (box strength, lock quality, anchored condition, etc.), or will it seek a nagative approach whereby a firearm is not left accessible to children, or unauthorized persons. The one approach is subject to complicated detail and legislative abuse; the other, vagueness and court challenge.

Perhaps a state code can be established recognizing numerous designs as sufficient. A problem area is anchoring: Is it better to bolt it down, and risk defeat with a sledge, or to secret the boxed weapon in a wall alcove? Would a metal, fire-resistant key-entry box slid under the bed do?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
7. Maybe more than anyone wants to consider but...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:16 PM
Sep 2014

...I break safety and security into 5 categories.

- 1 Little or none; close the drawer, put the lawnmower in the shed and close the door.
- 2 Basic; Lock the car, lock the door to the house, use child-safe containers and security.
- 3 Serious; Layered measures that include 2 or more barriers and 1 or more types of surveillance.
- 4 Professional; Multiple barriers, alarms and backups combined with surveillance and live security. (Anything from a major bank to the White House.)
- 5 Intensive; consider the restricted area at Fort Detrick, the blast door at Cheyenne Mountain or maybe this place...


I generally consider any home security to be at 3 or less. Exactly where that should be would depend on a periodic assessment.

thanks

 

BigAlanMac

(59 posts)
2. THANK YOU!
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:03 AM
Sep 2014

I just bought two.
Great deal. I've been using one similar for years in my van for the times I have to disarm to enter a CPZ.
(Criminal Protection Zone)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. I hope you ordered the larger of the two sizes offered.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

NV100
Price: $14.99 57% off List Price: $34.99

20 Gauge steel construction
Exterior dimensions: 1.5" x 6" x 8.25"
Interior dimensions: 1.5" x 5.75" x 8"
Weighs 2 pounds

NV200
Price: $17.99 55% off List Price: $39.99

18 Gauge steel construction
Exterior dimensions: 1.5" x 6.5" x 9.5"
Interior dimensions: 1.5" x 6.25" x 9.25"
Weighs 3 pounds

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Hoplophobes would say it's far too cheap, needs to cost at least $1,000.00
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

And, even then, the homeowner needs to sign a waiver of rights to allow police to enter the home at will to be sure it's being used correctly.



If the intent is safety for any kids in the home, I think what you have there is adequate. I wouldn't think it adequate to prevent burglars from prying it off the wall, however.

Also, looking at the size of the passport, one needs to buy the larger of the two to hold a single handgun.

After two burglaries in 2012, I decided I wanted a safe and I wanted it soon (I travel a lot). They didn't take any firearms, but did get laptops and coins.

I bought a tall safe from Harbor Freight for $299, I think it's just fine and has room for a lot of other valuables.

They have a nice variety, affordable, too bad they aren't made here.

http://www.harborfreight.com/household/safes.html
 

Sassysdad

(65 posts)
5. Nope....
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:39 AM
Sep 2014

$18.00.....I could unlock with my leatherman......not to mention just pick it and carry it away, were you of the criminal contingent.
Both my safes bolt to wall studs and the floor.

$18bucks...about as secure as a ziplock bag around a determined kid or crook.

 

BigAlanMac

(59 posts)
6. Yes, I ordered the large one
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:43 AM
Sep 2014

They are more than large enough for my 1911 and any of my other carry guns.
But, not, of course, my .22 target pistols.

BTW - they come with a 1500# steel cable to secure it to something solid in the vehicle (or where ever).
Most smash and grab types aren't going to take time to pick a lock or try to severe a cable.

Also, I don't leave it out in plain sight. I at least cover it up with a shopping bag.

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
12. Thank you
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:41 PM
Sep 2014

I'm going to get one and try it out. I didn't see that they had a steel cable until BigAlan pointed out.

That's something I could use. I live in the country and don't feel the need to be armed all the time. However I'm often in places for work that I do. And this could be a big help when I have to leave it in the car.

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