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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 06:16 AM Aug 2014

Illinois ammosexual showing off shotgun to friends fatally shoots self in head to prove it is empty

An Illinois man died over the weekend after he shot himself while trying to prove to his friends that his shotgun was empty by pointing it as his head and pulling the trigger. According to the Sun-Times Media Wire, Evanston police responded at around 9:45 on Sunday night to a 911 call about a man accidentally shooting himself in the head.

Police said that the man was “on the floor with a shotgun wound to his head. The shotgun was lying beside him.”

Cook County Medical Examiner’s office identified the man as 31-year-old Eric Zyzanski.

Witnesses at the apartment reportedly told police that Zyzanski pulled out his shotgun “began showing it off” to a group of friends. But his friends “became alarmed and told him to put it away.”

Zyzanski apparently attempted to demonstrate that the firearm was not a threat by ejecting “2-3 rounds,” a police statement said.

He then “held the shotgun to his cheek, told his friends it was empty and pulled the trigger.”

Police found that all of the witnesses “gave consistent accounts of what had happened,” and the evidence supported their stories. Listen to the audio report below from WBBM, broadcast Aug. 4, 2014.

Another senseless gun death. Now a 31 year old who was showing his 'gun safety skills' has his life snuffed out. REPEAL the second amendment, NO MORE GUNS!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/04/illinois-man-showing-off-shotgun-to-friends-fatally-shoots-self-in-head-to-prove-it-is-empty/

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Illinois ammosexual showing off shotgun to friends fatally shoots self in head to prove it is empty (Original Post) doxydad Aug 2014 OP
Darwin Award! kg4jxt Aug 2014 #1
31. Sad. Damn everyone who contributes to things like this; and I don't merrily Aug 2014 #2
He was showing off his gun, not his safety skills. Arkansas Granny Aug 2014 #3
REALLY? doxydad Aug 2014 #7
My guns appear to be broken - they have never killed anyone hack89 Aug 2014 #8
Allow me to educate you Hack... doxydad Aug 2014 #10
So if I understand your stats correctly hack89 Aug 2014 #12
I do doxydad Aug 2014 #22
I don't own guns for self protection - my town is very safe hack89 Aug 2014 #24
Sure...n/t doxydad Aug 2014 #27
Because we know that all gun owners are just pre-murders hack89 Aug 2014 #34
You realize the 2A is not stopping strict gun regulation hack89 Aug 2014 #9
Yeah, see.. doxydad Aug 2014 #11
The 2A is not stopping you from passing strict gun control laws. hack89 Aug 2014 #13
Absolutely. doxydad Aug 2014 #14
You are not making much sense here hack89 Aug 2014 #15
"ammosexual." So you are glad he's dead. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #16
The new insult is right up there with insults that end in "-tard". I won't spell it out. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #18
I don't know how you... doxydad Aug 2014 #26
You need to take care of yourself. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #33
It's a Darwin party.... PeteSelman Aug 2014 #4
What an idiot Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #5
Don't point the hole toward anyone and touch the bang switch. ileus Aug 2014 #6
Good riddance. sir pball Aug 2014 #17
Agreed! stone space Aug 2014 #19
you do know that if repealed Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #20
But think of all the new jobs! Cops, Feds, Troopers, Prison Guards, New Gun Gangs. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #30
Ban all Guns!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #21
YES! And ban all Alcohol and Drugs, TOO!!! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #23
Ban all Guns!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #25
Create an entire new Underground Industry of Violence and Gangs!!!! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #28
Ban all Guns!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #29
What a crying shame libodem Aug 2014 #31
AGREED! doxydad Aug 2014 #32
Save the false concern sarisataka Aug 2014 #36
Quoted for posterity. "And a shot gun at least has a legitimate use as a hunting rifle." n/t beevul Aug 2014 #35

kg4jxt

(30 posts)
1. Darwin Award!
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 06:21 AM
Aug 2014

I tried to block this sentiment out of my mind, then I tried to not comment -- but I am weak. This is what Darwin Awards were INVENTED for! I hereby nominate Mr. Eric Zyzanski!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. 31. Sad. Damn everyone who contributes to things like this; and I don't
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 06:34 AM
Aug 2014

mean only by money, though that is certainly a huge part of it.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
7. REALLY?
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 08:36 AM
Aug 2014

If you are showing off your gun (WHY? There's zillions of them, and they all kill...) then you should have enough brain power to not KILL yourself. Just another example of why nobody needs guns. Nobody. And don't tell me that you need them 'for protection'. If police cannot hit their target, I'm guessing some NRA gun humper cannot either, so he maims or kills innocents....or in this case, himself.


From the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

New York City police statistics show that simply hitting a target, let alone hitting it in a specific spot, is a difficult challenge. In 2006, in cases where police officers intentionally fired a gun at a person, they discharged 364 bullets and hit their target 103 times, for a hit rate of 28.3 percent, according to the department’s Firearms Discharge Report. The police shot and killed 13 people last year.

In 2005, officers fired 472 times in the same circumstances, hitting their mark 82 times, for a 17.4 percent hit rate. They shot and killed nine people that year.


No more guns, repeal the oh, so asinine Second Amendment NOW.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
8. My guns appear to be broken - they have never killed anyone
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:38 AM
Aug 2014

since you appear to be an expert, can you tell what the problem is?

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
10. Allow me to educate you Hack...
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:11 AM
Aug 2014

Hack, (ET AL) I am grateful for the opportunity to EDUCATE you why guns, owning guns, open carry, concealed carry ( obviously out of fear...of something) i.e. BogeyMan with Skittles, etc...People think you can just run around with guns.

Fact Sheet:
Accidental Shootings
Guns in the home increase risk:
Rather than being used for self defense, guns in the home are 22 times more likely to be involved in accidental shootings, homicides, or suicide
attempts
.
For every one time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were 4 unintentional shootings, 7
criminal assaults or homicides,
and 11 attempted or completed suicides.


Deaths:From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.

More than a third of the victims were under 25 years of age.
Injuries:In 2010, unintentional firearm shootings caused the deaths of 606 people.

More Guns = More Accidental Shootings: People of all age groups are significantly more
likely to die from unintentional firearm injuries when they live in states with more guns, relative to states with fewer guns.

On average, states with the highest gun ownership levels had 9 times the rate of unintentional firearms deaths compared to
states with the lowest gun ownership levels.

A federal government study of unintentional shootings found that 8% of such
shooting deaths resulted from shots fired by children under the age of six.

Youth and Accidental Shootings:
Over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age.
For kids ages 5 to 14, the mortality rate is 14 times higher in high gun ownership states than low gun
ownership states
.
For infants and toddlers,ages 0 to 4, the mortality rate is 17 times higher in high gun
ownership states than low gun ownership states.

The majority of people killed in firearm accidents are under age 24, and most of these
young people are being shot by someone else, usually someone their own age. The shooter
is typically a friend or family member, often an older brother.

http://nyagv.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Accidental-Shootings-NYAGV.pdf

NO MORE GUNS, NO MORE KILLINGS, Repeal the Second Amendment now.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. So if I understand your stats correctly
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:18 AM
Aug 2014

a tiny percentage of gun owners using a tiny percentage of total guns are involved in accidental gun deaths. Ok, that is in line with my experience.

Do you hold the same view on alcohol? It is involved in just as much death, disease and misery. Is prohibition the answer there as well or do you only care about gun deaths?

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
22. I do
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:50 AM
Aug 2014

Oh, yes, the 'apples vs. pears' bullshit the gunnutzzzz want to always come back with. Alcoholism is a disease. Owning and shooting and hugging guns is not a disease, it is an affirmation that ammosexuals are in need of security and filled with an unnatural fear of 'the Bogeyman'.

OHHH, look out! It's a kid in a hoodie! He has a gun, I'll shoot him because I need to show what a big masn I am with a firearm!!

What ar you so afraid of? I've gone 63 years without firing A SHOT. How is is possible that I am still alive?

Sorry, hack, you are out of intelligent ammo.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
24. I don't own guns for self protection - my town is very safe
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:00 AM
Aug 2014

I shoot in competitive target shooting matches. Purely recreational.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
34. Because we know that all gun owners are just pre-murders
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:33 AM
Aug 2014

waiting to kill some one.

If you ever wonder why the gun control movement is a smoking ruin in America, take a look in the mirror for one good reason.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
9. You realize the 2A is not stopping strict gun regulation
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:40 AM
Aug 2014

AWBs, magazine limits, licenses, background checks, even registration are perfectly Constitutional. The reason grabbers fail time and time again has nothing to do with the 2A and everything to do with the fact that most of America does not agree with you.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
11. Yeah, see..
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:12 AM
Aug 2014

You are wrong. The Second Amendment was for a 'militia'...not you and your gun totin' ilk.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. The 2A is not stopping you from passing strict gun control laws.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:54 AM - Edit history (1)

if you can't pass them now, why do you think repealing the 2A will allow you to pass them?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. You are not making much sense here
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:55 AM
Aug 2014

can you put a little effort into actually answering my questions?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. The new insult is right up there with insults that end in "-tard". I won't spell it out.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:34 PM
Aug 2014

Skinner must be very proud of his anonymous juries.

Free speech has it's price, I suppose.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
26. I don't know how you...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:06 AM
Aug 2014

made that jump..."ammosexual." So you are glad he's dead.see I'm working on logic here....I know how much you love your guns. I do. that being said, yes, 'ammosexua'l fits. So does' gun-humper', 'open carry freak', 'gun nut' , 'bang-bang bubblehead' and a plethora of other adjectives about people who live in unnatural fearl of 'kids with skittles'. OHHH, something....somebody...ohhh...i don't know...something is out there!! AHHHHHH, better git your gun, Annie!!

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. Don't point the hole toward anyone and touch the bang switch.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 06:59 AM
Aug 2014

In fact you're never supposed to point the hole toward anyone period. Unless of course you're protecting life and/or property...

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
17. Good riddance.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:41 PM
Aug 2014

No, I'm not particularly compassionate. I feel bad for the bystanders who had to witness the bloody mess, but this asshat did us all a favor by removing (what passed for) his brains from his skull post-haste.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
20. you do know that if repealed
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:24 AM
Aug 2014

that it does not mean no more guns, it just goes to the states and might actually mean more guns.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
30. But think of all the new jobs! Cops, Feds, Troopers, Prison Guards, New Gun Gangs.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:10 AM
Aug 2014

Why do you hate economic growth?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
28. Create an entire new Underground Industry of Violence and Gangs!!!!
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

It's working in Australia!

Ban all Guns!!!!

And build more prisons, become even more a police state, get more people killed.

Yay Authoritarian Government.

BRING IT ON!!!

libodem

(19,288 posts)
31. What a crying shame
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

Condolences to the family. I just despise guns. And a shot gun at least has a legitimate use as a hunting rifle.

Safety first all. Never assume anything.


I feel like a good cry.

sarisataka

(18,649 posts)
36. Save the false concern
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

He was just -in your words- an "Ammosexual" and "NRA gun humper"

You have made your disdain for gun owners clear, many tmes. It makes your sympathy as hollow as Boehner promising to work with Obama.

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