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sylvi

(813 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 12:54 PM Apr 2013

NRA Talking Points™ spewing gun fetishist defends his wife from being beaten with a club

BETHEL PARK, Pa. (AP) — Police in western Pennsylvania say a man was shot to death after reportedly brandishing a wooden club in an attack on the owners of a Pittsburgh-area music store.

Police Chief John Mackey told reporters that the 32-year-old man entered Armen's House of Music in Bethel Park shortly before noon Saturday.

The man left but returned a few minutes later carrying the club, which police said he used to strike the wife of the store owner.

Mackey said he then attacked the owner, and the two struggled briefly before the owner shot and killed the attacker.


[url]http://www.phillyburbs.com/ap/state/pa/shot-dead-after-reported-pa-music-store-attack/article_13d24535-b0fc-5d81-b563-28f18c38614a.html[/url]

Another rude toter terrorizing society with his WMD.




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NRA Talking Points™ spewing gun fetishist defends his wife from being beaten with a club (Original Post) sylvi Apr 2013 OP
Was the attacker killed with one of the first few bullets the homeowner fired... Schema Thing Apr 2013 #1
13 is within the standard capacity of some pistols gejohnston Apr 2013 #3
And that matters, why? premium Apr 2013 #4
It matters because it because almost no one, despite gun-nuts trying to make it look so, Schema Thing Apr 2013 #7
how do you define reasonable? gejohnston Apr 2013 #8
Depends on where you live. Straw Man Apr 2013 #10
How much is enough? Straw Man Apr 2013 #9
"Or did he finish him off with a hand grenade?" sylvi Apr 2013 #6
Did you even bother to read read the article? CokeMachine Apr 2013 #19
Probably a handgun, therefore a death spewer, not a WMD. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #2
off to the Hague Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #5
How many gun homicides took place the same day as this incident? rdharma Apr 2013 #11
how many DGUs on the same day didn't make the news? gejohnston Apr 2013 #12
This was a gun homicide sylvi Apr 2013 #13
"Justifiable" rdharma Apr 2013 #14
Okay, I give up. sylvi Apr 2013 #15
Figure the number of firearms homicides per year and divide by 365..... rdharma Apr 2013 #16
That'll give a daily average for whatever year cited sylvi Apr 2013 #17
Some would have rather his wife took a beating... ileus Apr 2013 #18
There are some who, you know, like to play footsy with crims. Eleanors38 May 2013 #20

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
1. Was the attacker killed with one of the first few bullets the homeowner fired...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013


or the thirtieth bullet in his massive manly clip (or magazine; whichever verbage is making gun nuts happy today)?



Or did he finish him off with a hand grenade?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
3. 13 is within the standard capacity of some pistols
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:07 PM
Apr 2013

if he used a hand grenade at that range, all three would have been gone.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
4. And that matters, why?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:08 PM
Apr 2013


Are you here to disrupt or debate?
If it's to debate, then let's without the insults. OK?

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
7. It matters because it because almost no one, despite gun-nuts trying to make it look so,
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 02:39 PM
Apr 2013

almost no one has suggested doing away with the right to bear arms in America - only that we put reasonable limits on said rights.


So everytime one of you gun nuts acts as if huge swaths of the political spectrum don't want you to be able to protect yourself or your family with a gun - you are engaging in obfuscation and doing real damage to the cause of recalibrating our gun laws away from "low cost - outrageously easy access to guns" and towards "responsible-gun-ownership-only".

Ya'll should stop doing that because people are dying every day because of said ridiculously easy access to guns.


gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
8. how do you define reasonable?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:01 PM
Apr 2013

there is a bill in California that defines all semi aut rifles that uses a detachable box magazine as an "assault weapon", including these used by the Boy Scouts and other target shooters.
http://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-issues/california/2013-2014/sb374/

That is hardly reasonable. But then, few gun control advocates know anything on the subject. IMO, current laws are reasonable, many of the proposals lately simply are not once you read past the first two paragraphs.

Straw Man

(6,624 posts)
10. Depends on where you live.
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:07 PM
Apr 2013
IMO, current laws are reasonable, many of the proposals lately simply are not once you read past the first two paragraphs.

Current laws in NY State are not reasonable, IMO. I wish someone would attempt to explain the provision of our new SAFE Act by which I can legally purchase and possess a ten-round magazine but can only load seven rounds in it, even in my own home -- unless I'm on a shooting range. I don't know which assumption is more ridiculous: the notion that target practice is more important than self-defense or the notion that anyone with bad intentions will ever possibly abide by that ludicrous limitation.

Straw Man

(6,624 posts)
9. How much is enough?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:59 PM
Apr 2013
It matters because it because almost no one, despite gun-nuts trying to make it look so,

almost no one has suggested doing away with the right to bear arms in America - only that we put reasonable limits on said rights.

Every time someone says "No one wants to take your guns away; we just want reasonable limits," I'm compelled to ask what limits you consider reasonable. There are quite a few limits already. What degree of limitation would you consider sufficient?
 

sylvi

(813 posts)
6. "Or did he finish him off with a hand grenade?"
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:16 PM
Apr 2013

Actually, it was a nuclear missile.

The same kind of nuclear missile all we Second Amendment "absolutists" believe everyone should be able to possess.

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
19. Did you even bother to read read the article?
Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:03 PM
Apr 2013

It was a music store not a home. Also the owner and his wife were taken to the hospital for their injuries.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
12. how many DGUs on the same day didn't make the news?
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:15 PM
Apr 2013

who knows.
BTW, this is a homicide, just not murder nor manslaughter. The term is justifiable homicide.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
14. "Justifiable"
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:22 PM
Apr 2013

Now. How many gun homicides took place that same say that weren't "justified"?

How many gun "accidents"?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
16. Figure the number of firearms homicides per year and divide by 365.....
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:36 PM
Apr 2013

That will give you the approximate number.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
17. That'll give a daily average for whatever year cited
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 04:41 PM
Apr 2013

but it won't answer your original question.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
18. Some would have rather his wife took a beating...
Mon Apr 29, 2013, 09:37 PM
Apr 2013

than afford him the ability to defend her with the fine selection of firearms we Americans have to choose from.

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