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Police Chief John Mackey told reporters that the 32-year-old man entered Armen's House of Music in Bethel Park shortly before noon Saturday.
The man left but returned a few minutes later carrying the club, which police said he used to strike the wife of the store owner.
Mackey said he then attacked the owner, and the two struggled briefly before the owner shot and killed the attacker.
[url]http://www.phillyburbs.com/ap/state/pa/shot-dead-after-reported-pa-music-store-attack/article_13d24535-b0fc-5d81-b563-28f18c38614a.html[/url]
Another rude toter terrorizing society with his WMD.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)or the thirtieth bullet in his massive manly clip (or magazine; whichever verbage is making gun nuts happy today)?
Or did he finish him off with a hand grenade?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)if he used a hand grenade at that range, all three would have been gone.
premium
(3,731 posts)Are you here to disrupt or debate?
If it's to debate, then let's without the insults. OK?
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)almost no one has suggested doing away with the right to bear arms in America - only that we put reasonable limits on said rights.
So everytime one of you gun nuts acts as if huge swaths of the political spectrum don't want you to be able to protect yourself or your family with a gun - you are engaging in obfuscation and doing real damage to the cause of recalibrating our gun laws away from "low cost - outrageously easy access to guns" and towards "responsible-gun-ownership-only".
Ya'll should stop doing that because people are dying every day because of said ridiculously easy access to guns.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)there is a bill in California that defines all semi aut rifles that uses a detachable box magazine as an "assault weapon", including these used by the Boy Scouts and other target shooters.
http://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-issues/california/2013-2014/sb374/
That is hardly reasonable. But then, few gun control advocates know anything on the subject. IMO, current laws are reasonable, many of the proposals lately simply are not once you read past the first two paragraphs.
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)Current laws in NY State are not reasonable, IMO. I wish someone would attempt to explain the provision of our new SAFE Act by which I can legally purchase and possess a ten-round magazine but can only load seven rounds in it, even in my own home -- unless I'm on a shooting range. I don't know which assumption is more ridiculous: the notion that target practice is more important than self-defense or the notion that anyone with bad intentions will ever possibly abide by that ludicrous limitation.
Straw Man
(6,624 posts)almost no one has suggested doing away with the right to bear arms in America - only that we put reasonable limits on said rights.
Every time someone says "No one wants to take your guns away; we just want reasonable limits," I'm compelled to ask what limits you consider reasonable. There are quite a few limits already. What degree of limitation would you consider sufficient?
sylvi
(813 posts)Actually, it was a nuclear missile.
The same kind of nuclear missile all we Second Amendment "absolutists" believe everyone should be able to possess.
CokeMachine
(1,018 posts)It was a music store not a home. Also the owner and his wife were taken to the hospital for their injuries.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)With him !
rdharma
(6,057 posts)And how many gun "accidents"?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)who knows.
BTW, this is a homicide, just not murder nor manslaughter. The term is justifiable homicide.
sylvi
(813 posts)rdharma
(6,057 posts)Now. How many gun homicides took place that same say that weren't "justified"?
How many gun "accidents"?
sylvi
(813 posts)How many?
rdharma
(6,057 posts)That will give you the approximate number.
sylvi
(813 posts)but it won't answer your original question.
ileus
(15,396 posts)than afford him the ability to defend her with the fine selection of firearms we Americans have to choose from.