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darkangel218

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It is a totally ambiguous and illogical question as stated. defacto7 Jan 2013 #1
"Loaded"? You're being both ironic and incredibly polite. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #3
I surprise myself sometimes! defacto7 Jan 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #2
I voted. Clames Jan 2013 #4
dark angel's poll is JUNK SCIENCE jimmy the one Jan 2013 #6

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
1. It is a totally ambiguous and illogical question as stated.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:19 PM
Jan 2013

State the whole 2nd amendment and maybe there could be a logical response. As stated, it's a loaded question.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,834 posts)
3. "Loaded"? You're being both ironic and incredibly polite.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jan 2013

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. I surprise myself sometimes!
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:46 PM
Jan 2013

Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

 

Clames

(2,038 posts)
4. I voted.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:36 PM
Jan 2013

71% and counting.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
6. dark angel's poll is JUNK SCIENCE
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:21 AM
Jan 2013

DarkAngel from the 2ndA poll thread: No, it isnt cherry picked. I could say the same about the anti gun mob But I won't.
The poll is pretty straight forward. For or against our constitutional right to carry and bear arms


No it isn't 'straightforward' at all, and you're obviously pro gun with a bias against guncontrol advocates.
.. there are two different interpretations of the 2nd amendment, one the individual right & the other the militia right (which has two schisms, a pure militia only right, another with an accompanying 'narrow' individual right but still dependent upon militia).

I support the 2nd amendment interpretation as a militia based right with a narrow individual right adjunct, which means I think the scalia based 2008 ruling was a subversion of the true meaning of the 2ndA. So how can I answer your poll question which asks whether I support the 2ndA, without misleading my true opinion?
So your wording nulllifies the poll as anything meaningfull, just another unscientific internet poll. Unscientific since it is not 'randomly chosen' sample - people could log off & relog back on under different name & revote. Not that I think this is happening, but combined with the spoon fed wording, it's junk science.
Toss in the relative ignorance about the roots of the 2nd amendment, a lot of people think it either allows people to own guns, or, become a police state.

Here, from polling report, with scientific polling:

gallupIn general, do you feel that the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?"
....... Morestrict- Lessstrict- Kept asnow.. Unsure
12/19-22/12 ..58 ......6 ...........34 ........2
10/6-9/11.... 43 .....11 ...........44 ........2

whether you favor or oppose each of the following: A law which would ban the sale and possession of high-capacity ammunition clips that can contain more than 10 bullets."
........... Favor ...Oppose
12/19-22/12 .. 62 ......35

What is more important-protect right of Americans to own guns, or control gun ownership?"
Protectright toown guns Controlownership Unsure/Refused
12/17-19/12 .....42 ...........49 .............9
Repub 69 27 4 Demo 20 72 8 Indep 47 42 11

pew: "Do you think allowing citizens to own assault weapons makes the country safer or more dangerous?" 12/19 2012: 21% Safer... 65% More dangerous ...13 Unsure

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