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[fizzgig]

1. i'm keeping you and sweet toby in my thoughts

have they figured out anything yet?

[Walk away]

2. No. They have ruled out trauma, infection, poison....

tumors or cancer, major organ disease (liver, bladder, kidney etc). They cannot find the source of the fluids or why he is bleeding more despite having opened him up and run dye through his system to fine the leak.

He is being so sweet and good through the whole thing. Poor Buddy.

[fizzgig]

3. i know how hard that is

we lost a kitty last year, he was sick and three different vets couldn't find anything wrong with him.

i hope they are able to figure it out

[Walk away]

4. Thanks. Sorry about your Kitty.

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Fingers and paws crossed here for Toby.

[dixiegrrrrl]

6. I am sorry you and Toby have to go thru this crisis.

I understand how worrisome it can be, and how much you must miss having him at home with you.
Hoping for the best for you.....

[Walk away]

8. I have a Doggie Day Care so there is a big hole in everydoggie's heart these days.

They keep looking for him and all of the nap beds are full but his is empty waiting for him. I wish everything could just go back to happy and better.

[Voice for Peace]

15. :(

[siligut]

7. A walk outside is always good

Toby

[Curmudgeoness]

9. My heart breaks for you and Toby.

I cannot imagine how frustrating it is for all involved to not find a cause. I hope they figure it out.

[Walk away]

10. I am worried that I am doing too much. This came out of the blue.

Two weeks ago he was running, playing and begging for treats. It seemed the right thing to do to do everything possible. I am just hoping I don't regret putting him through this in the end. I don't want my love to cause him pain. It's hard to know what to do.

[Curmudgeoness]

11. Oh, Walk away,

you are not doing too much. You will realize when that time comes. And the vets will let you know that there is nothing more to do. If that time comes soon, it will not have been too long that Toby was sick. You have to try before you give up. There is still a chance that they can find the cause. I would not give up yet. Not yet.

This is the strangest illness I have ever heard about....came on so fast and they just can't find a cause. I am so sorry. Don't beat yourself up and don't second guess your decisions.

[hamsterjill]

17. I second this post.

As well as the one subsequent here in that, regardless of your decisions, there will always be some regret and second guessing.

You know this little guy better than anyone and you will know when he is no longer enjoying being here. I know that sounds a little strange, but I firmly believe that.

I do cat rescue and many of the kitties that find their ways to us have been through hell before getting to us. We don't always have happy endings, and I cry and question over each and every one that we lose. What kind of uncaring human being would I be if I didn't???!!!

But with each one, and there have been many, I find that I've learned something about either cats in general or myself, and I regard that wisdom as a very valuable and centrigal part of the rescue work that I do.

This is a very strange situation with them not being able to find the cause. My hope and my prayers for you and Toby is that someone comes up with a solution!

Please keep us posted and please remember to be gentle with yourself as you pass through this crisis.

[TorchTheWitch]

21. And I third it

And everything you said, too.

Keeping my fingers crossed that they find out what's wrong with Toby and that he can be cured. How sad and scary and frustrating this all must be. With all my fur babies I knew what was wrong with them. I can't imagine having to deal with such a crisis and not having any idea what the problem is.

[meti57b]

13. to my experience, .....

Whether you do everything possible or let him go comfortably, .... there are always regrets, either way.

As what is causing his situation is unknown, it isn't known for certain that he cannot survive it.

I have a vet, who truly cares. It isn't just a business or a job to her. If you have someone like that, you could talk to them about what to do.

If the pooch is not suffering from his actual condition, (but only from the hassle of trying to find out what it is), I think I would give it more time.

I lost a cat recently, to HCM heart disease. He had an echocardiogram on a Friday that showed his heart filling with blood and no longer pumping effectively. However, my cat was still active, eating and enjoying life. My vet thought he had another month of good life and she thought we could let him live it. On the following Wednesday, he stopped eating. Overnight he lost the use of his back legs. By morning he was gasping for air. I got the cat to my vet's at 6:00am. Her early morning staff telephoned her and she came in and did the euthanasia.

I did regret not letting him go sooner, but at the same time, I knew it was hard to let him go while life was still good for him. My vet felt that maybe she had not tried everything and she very much regretted that. However, she did in fact try everything. The cat had already survived a remarkable 12 years with this heart condition.

That isn't very helpful, but that is what I did.

(edit to add .....) During those 12 years, we also took him to veterinary cardiologists.

[Walk away]

18. I do regret the exploatory surgery because the results gave us no info and..

he will have weeks of painful recovery if he lives through the illness. The fluids that fill his abdomen contain more blood every time it is drained. He fills up with blood and lymph fluid every few days to the point that it affects his lungs and heart. The draining is scary and hurts him but he will die without them. We are buying time for a diagnosis but the price keeps getting higher and there are no results.
After he is drained he feels better but he is so weak from the surgery it will be heartbreaking to drain him again.

[meti57b]

19. I will continue thinking about you and your little pooch, and hoping for all the best.

I always watch and enjoy the little videos you make of the pooches playing.

I wonder if some kind of a specialist medical doctor (for people) might recognize from the description, what your little pooch's condition is.

[Walk away]

20. That's a good idea. I am going to call my own endocrinologist tonight.

He's a nice and caring man. I am sure he will help if he can.

[Phentex]

12. Good vibes for little Toby...

hope the little sweetie makes a full recovery soon!

[Walk away]

14. Thanks.

[AndyA]

16. Sending good thoughts to you and to Toby

Hope he recovers quickly and completely, and soon forgets this ordeal. Hang in there and get well soon, Toby!