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Phentex

(16,334 posts)
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:00 AM Jun 2012

Tell me about deck stain...17 gallons later...

We chose a semi transparent because we wanted the wood grain to show through. I had a hard time choosing the color because I didn't want a total redwood look but I wanted some red. I found what I thought was a nice mix between a brown and a red.

We hired a trusted contractor to do this job and he used a combination of spray, rollers and brushes. The wood really soaked up the stain plus we had a rare break in the weather and had low humidity and bright sunny days. The color was pretty close to what I expected, not too red or brown.

However, when he decided to touch up some places and used a brush or roller over places he had sprayed, there was a noticeable difference in color. So he kept coating. The deck surfaces now look painted (redwood of course!) and the rails and stairs and such look stained. Will the surfaces fade? It doesn't look bad but you don't see any wood grain through it in most areas and the red is dominant.

Too late to do anything but I am wondering how this will fade...or will it?

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Tell me about deck stain...17 gallons later... (Original Post) Phentex Jun 2012 OP
It will fade some Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #1
I'm thinking they can let it wear a few seasons.... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #2
Oh yes, ours was first painted a hideous orange tint Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2012 #5
Interesting... Phentex Jun 2012 #7
Good to know. Phentex Jun 2012 #6
It'll fade from sunlight, if nothing else Warpy Jun 2012 #3
Don't ask me how I know this... Phentex Jun 2012 #9
Did mine with redwood deck stain last year. Melissa G Jun 2012 #4
In the old days Phentex Jun 2012 #8
It isn't necessarily a matter of purposely making them poorer. Adsos Letter Jun 2012 #12
Thanks for letting me know. n/t Melissa G Jun 2012 #13
You're welcome. n/t Adsos Letter Jun 2012 #14
and unrelated... Phentex Jun 2012 #10
It's like washing your car to make it rain... Melissa G Jun 2012 #11

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
1. It will fade some
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:55 AM
Jun 2012

from the elements. We did ours last year. Oil, at least 2 coats. It was 'shiny' for most of the summer, now it is duller and the grain is starting to show through.
As a former painter, I know that spraying and even rolling does not fill the pores like a brush does. If they backbrushed after spraying, that's good. If they just sprayed some spots, it may not have soaked in like it should have, and dried on the surface like a film instead. then when you go over it again it's too dark.

but like I said, after a few months of weathering it should look better.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
2. I'm thinking they can let it wear a few seasons....
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jun 2012

... and then re-do it the right way to blend it all together. No?

My friend's condo did theirs like a year ago and I think they must have sprayed it. The stairs were the first to wear through almost immediately.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
5. Oh yes, ours was first painted a hideous orange tint
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jun 2012

We let it weather good for 2-3 years, pressure washed the crap out of it, then redid it with a redwood tinted oil stain. Looks great now with bits of the orange undercoat peeking thru. Other areas where it never really soaked in (first coat was sprayed) took on a much darker color and several coats. I think we went though about 22 gallons, letting it soak in and bake under the sun for a few days between coats. You just keep putting on layers until the wood no longer soaks it up.
It was so shiny it was unnatural. now several months later it looks great

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
6. Good to know.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jun 2012

The screen porch will probably stay dark then but with the rug and furniture, you don't see much porch.

Thanks.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
3. It'll fade from sunlight, if nothing else
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

Sunlight is especially tough on red stain, so that component will fade first, tragic I know.

Wood soaks up stain and it's amazing how little a gallon will cover. Been there, done that. I've also had it look blotchy for the first couple of months (hey, I was tired!). However, it's all evened out over time.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
9. Don't ask me how I know this...
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

but if you open a gallon of stain and don't stir or shake it first, your brush will remove ALL of the color from the can in just a few strokes. And I wasn't even tired!

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
4. Did mine with redwood deck stain last year.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 05:05 PM
Jun 2012

It already looks like it needs a touch up. Same stain 7 years earlier held up way better. I think products are being made purposely poorer.

I too, think it will fade quickly. If it does not, you may be able to use a thinner to get more of the stained wood look again, but someone here is probably more knowledgeable about that than me.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
8. In the old days
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jun 2012

I remember staining and then having to waterproof. Now the stains are multi-purpose. But of course they want you to have to keep doing it!

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
12. It isn't necessarily a matter of purposely making them poorer.
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jun 2012

The rules on allowable VOC levels and types have been getting stricter over time. This can have a negative effect on some products, especially the oil-based ones. The coatings industry usually gets around to adjusting products so they will perform as they should, but not always. (now defunct) Fuller-O'Brien's AA enamel is a prime case in point, as are many current laquers.

Over a period of 30+ years in the trade, we had to adjust to new formulations pretty regularly.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
10. and unrelated...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jun 2012

How come it rained off and on for two weeks when we wanted to get started but now that it's done, we haven't had a drop of rain?

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