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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:14 AM

I'm going to be a host of LGBT Group for a second

And simply state this:

I believe that rational discussion of seated Democrats' stances towards LGBT rights IS fair game in the LGBT Group, including their pro-LGBT, LGBT-neutral, and anti-LGBT stances. I believe that we have both the right to laud and be constructively critical of those seated Democrats (and all politicians) regarding the advancement of our rights. I do not believe this discussion should be limited to or from specific times so long as it is constructive and pro-LGBT rights.

Period.

What do you think? The group is only as strong as its members voices.

(Disclaimer: My statement comes from me and is not necessarily indicative of the other hosts' opinions. I have not discussed my views with them at length prior to writing this statement and my words should not necessarily be indicative of their support of or opposition to my view.)

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Reply I'm going to be a host of LGBT Group for a second (Original post)
Fearless Jan 2013 OP
JackBeck Jan 2013 #1
Fearless Jan 2013 #2
dbackjon Jan 2013 #7
dsc Jan 2013 #3
Fearless Jan 2013 #4
William769 Jan 2013 #5
Puglover Jan 2013 #6

Response to Fearless (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:23 AM

1. Could we please put an emphasis on "rational discussion" and "constructively critical"?

Because calling Obama a "bigot" could be categorized as none of the above.

It's become frustrating for me to see a very small minority of posters on DU who end up actually doing more harm than good for LGBT social justice when they post such nonsense.

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Response to JackBeck (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:26 AM

2. I agree

We should always be rational and constructive when we post.

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Response to JackBeck (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:59 PM

7. WE are going to have to disagree

In my opinion, anyone that is not for the COMPLETE and IMMEDIATE Equality for all Americans is a Bigot. Bigotry can be subtle, or obvious. Discrimination based on "sincerely-held" religious beliefs is still a form of bigotry.

I am sorry if I offend some delicate sensiblities, but people should be labeled what they truly are.


You think I am doing more harm than good. I disagree. I beleive that those that acquise to the bigotry and discrimination are delaying equality for all.



Playing nice got us nowhere.

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Response to Fearless (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:48 AM

3. the fact is our posts have to follow the same rules as other fora

which means we are subject to the jury system. For the record I voted on a version of the post that didn't say Obama was a bigot but did compare his stance on marriage equality to a hypothetical stance on racial equality. But a post directly calls Obama a bigot is going to be removed no matter which forum it is in.

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Response to dsc (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:38 AM

4. Indeed. Hence "constructive criticism"

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Response to Fearless (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:00 AM

5. I reserve the right to take this on as a case by case basis.

My first and foremost job here is keep this Group a safe haven for LGBT members (from people not sympathetic to the LGBT Community (frankly I don't care about anything else). If a post does not fall into this category then a jury will decide, our Group is just like the rest of DU (you take your chances in what you post).

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Response to Fearless (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:18 AM

6. 100 percent agree!

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