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Canon Oestreicher, whose parents fled Nazi Germany in 1938 for New Zealand and who was ordained a priest in London in 1960, was revisiting the message he had preached on Good Friday in Wellington, New Zealands capital.
He writes that John was the only male disciple to have come to Jesus execution and quoted: When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, Woman behold your son! Then he said to the disciple. Behold your mother! And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.
Canon Oestreicher writes: After much reflection and with certainly no wish to shock, I felt I was left with no option but to suggest, for the first time in half a century of my Anglican priesthood, that Jesus may well have been homosexual.
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He continues that Jesus could have been straight, bisexual or gay, but the homosexual option simply seems the most likely.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/04/20/anglican-priest-jesus-was-most-likely-gay-but-it-is-immaterial/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/20/was-jesus-gay-probably?
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There's something to be said about wandering the country with 13 men...
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)to continuing the bullshit that Mary M was a prostitute. There is NO biblical foundation for that, just a bunch of crap written centuries later by a RC alleged theologian. Please edit your remark.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)The point back to what the article was about.
Incidentally, the rumor that she was a prostitute comes from a Pope, not alleged theologians.
"Pope Gregory the Great's homily on Luke's gospel dated 14 September 591 first suggested that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute: "She whom Luke calls the sinful woman, whom John calls Mary, we believe to be the Mary from whom seven devils were ejected according to Mark. And what did these seven devils signify, if not all the vices? ... It is clear, brothers, that the woman previously used the unguent to perfume her flesh in forbidden acts." homily XXXIII)[15]"
Of course then there's the fact that Pope John Paul II said the opposite, that she was not in the 1988 encyclical Dignitatum Mulieris.
Says something about Papal infallibility.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)At the moment I wrote it, the brain wasn't functioning as to who had started the bit about MM. Just didn't want to see that line continued. Need coffee. I have always wondered about the sexuality exactly for the reasons stated in the original OP. But, in later years, with the discovery of the Gospel of Mary, my own thinking about her has changed considerably. I also just recently read "The Woman with the Alabaster Jar" and it is much along the lines of the thesis put out about Mary being married to JC. The one reason that I would think of him being married is that he has been referred to as Rabbi and that would usually indicate marriage. However, Mary refers to him as "rabboni" which is translated as "teacher". Soooo, who knows?
Just a couple of Sundays ago, our pastor posited that Thomas may well have been blind, hence the feeling of the nail holes and piercing in the side. That was his method of seeing. Plus that Didymus in ancient Greek was the euphemism used for the blind, since it indicates that they always had a companion to aid them. Interesting.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)"Thanks for your correction."
That's a phrase that we hear far too rarely here. Enjoy your coffee and have a beautiful day.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)I would not hazard calling it a correction as the only evidence for either side is not empirical in nature. Nevertheless, enjoy your coffee!
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Straight people have been "worshipping" gay people down thru the ages only they were rarely aware of that fact.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)to have the baby.
But really, look at the times Jesus lived in. Homosexuality and bi-sexuality were as common as heterosexuality. It was considered very normal to have a love affair with a boy (in the case of men) and still get married and have children.
Wasn't there an emperor who built a temple for his dead male lover and made him into a god?
The Romans were all about rich men enjoying sex any way they could. I'm sure Jesus was influenced by that.
4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I mean, Jesus doesn't change, but what changes in your reaction to Jesus?
Regardless of whether Jesus was straight or gay , I found these paintings moving:
http://jesusinlove.blogspot.com/2011/04/1-passion-of-christ-gay-vision.html
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)anti-gay Christian Religious people. Not all religious people are Christian. Anyway that`s not the only thing that makes them hypocrites. Would be interesting to see the implosion if it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt anyway.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)would come off the pickup trucks REAL fast.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Old Union Guy
(738 posts)Santa Claus most likely has blue eyes.
But it doesn't matter.