implosion:

[wildbilln864]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25462544#25462544

[whitefordmd]

1. It's a lovely implosion video. Is there a point in sharing? nt

[William Seger]

2. Yup, and here is what a real controlled demolition sounds like:

Ordinary consumer camcorders, a safe distance away:

There are many more such raw videos of that demolition on YouTube, and every one I've watched has those distinctive sounds of high explosives. On the other hand, exactly zero videos of WTC collapses have sounds like that. How do you possibly convince yourself to ignore that fact?

[wildbilln864]

3. notice how...

any explosion sounds weren't hidden by the sounds of impacts of planes and they didn't use any thermite in the demolitions like they did on 911 as those demolitions weren't meant to be covert & to look like terrorist attacks! And also none of the videos ere first censored and edited before release.
You FAIL again.

[hack89]

4. So the explosions were set off when the planes impacted and not at the time of collapse? Nt

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[William Seger]

5. Yes, that's what he believes

He believes that a jet fuel explosion in the basement caused WTC1 to collapse an hour later, starting up where the plane hit. And of course, we don't hear any explosions when the building actually collapses because "they" don't want us to hear them, so they must have done something to prevent it. And of course, they needed to confiscate every media and personal camera in Manhattan and edit the videos before releasing them, hoping no one would remember that there weren't any explosive sounds when they watched it live, and that no one whose camera was confiscated would report that that's what happened. All of this can be explained because that's what they needed to do, so obviously that's what they must have done. How was it accomplished? Don't ask wildbill; that's just why we need a new investigation!

[wildbilln864]

6. I could only guess but

perhaps. I might set off the major set off the major structure weakening charges at impact to disguise their sound then light the thermite charges and in maybe an hour of the thermite burning through the core members collapse would ensue. why wouldn't that work?

[hack89]

7. But thermite does not produce "squibs"

I assume you now agree that they were caused by air as the floors collapsed.

[wildbilln864]

9. no I don't agree...

I don't know. Possibly. Or maybe there were very small charges detonated in series causing the "squibs". Small charges used to assure the buildings came down. Charges hidden deep in the interior on the core columns would have their sound muffled by the surrounding building structure's collapse sounds.

[whitefordmd]

8. Any idea how much thermite will burn in an hour?

My guess is lots.

[wildbilln864]

10. so what?

maybe they weren't set off right away.

[whitefordmd]

11. So let me see if I understand

When the planes hit some explosions were set off. Not clear why you need explosions if the plane impacted the towers, but we are deep into woo at the moment so I am going with it.

The perps had a backup plan to ignite thermite at major columns at some point if the towers failed to collapse from the impacts to ensure the towers collapsed. Not clear why the perps had to have the towers collapse either, but again I've got my woo boots on snugly so I assuming this was critical to the plot.

All of this was choreographed to make it appear as if no explosions or thermite were used, so ....... sorry but I've run out of rational thought.

please fill in the rest.

[wildbilln864]

12. hmmm...

When the planes hit some explosions were set off. Not clear why you need explosions if the plane impacted the towers, but we are deep into woo at the moment so I am going with it.
Well perhaps Aluminum bodied planes might not cut through enough core column steel. But enough charges could for sure.

The perps had a backup plan to ignite thermite at major columns at some point if the towers failed to collapse from the impacts to ensure the towers collapsed. Not clear why the perps had to have the towers collapse either, but again I've got my woo boots on snugly so I assuming this was critical to the plot.
It was part of the whole plan not a "backup" part.
Towers had to be completely demolished enough to allow quick removal & disposal of evidence. Can't have people snooping around in a still standing building with evidence of demolitions here and there. And had to have a huge spectacle to arouse the wrath of the people to get behind the oncoming Iraq invasion. A new Pearl Harbor event!

All of this was choreographed to make it appear as if no explosions or thermite were used, so ....... sorry but I've run out of rational thought.
You could avoid the snark but nonetheless
What may be "rational" to a criminal sociopath might not seem rational to a non criminal mind.

[whitefordmd]

13. "quick removal & disposal of evidence."

When did that happen?

[wildbilln864]

14. so you didn't know...

ok then.

[whitefordmd]

15. I don't believe that happend

I was hoping you would provide some clues as to why you believe this happened.

[wildbilln864]

16. clues:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

September 28, 2001: More than 134 tons of material have been removed; NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani estimates that the cleanup will take “anywhere from nine months to a year.” http://www.911memorial.org/rescue-recovery

[whitefordmd]

17. Am i supposed to believe 9 to 12 months is a

Quick disposal of the evidence?

[AtheistCrusader]

18. Inquiry.

Wouldn't it save the mysterious lizard overlords a lot of effort to simply order one Port Authority structural engineer to declare the buildings unsafe for habitation after the impacts and fire, and then simply demolish them 'normally'?

And then cast a steely lizard gaze at the insurance adjustors and order them to declare the buildings a total loss, and pay up?

I'm not clear why the smoke stained, hole-punched condemned buildings, later demolished to pomp and circumstance, doesn't solve all the purposes you have ascribed here WRT a pearl-harbor-like casus belli? Help me out, I'm not good with conspiracies.

[wildbilln864]

19. don't know what kind of ignorant stupidity you're rambling on about but it

doesn't surprise me that you're doing it.

[AtheistCrusader]

20. Thank you for completely answering my question.

People are rarely so clear in their responses. And rarely say so much with so little text.

I appreciate it. Serious.

[wildbilln864]

21. didn't notice a question amidst

the ridiculous nonsensical rambling, sorry! Perhaps you could ask it again and I'd be happy to help you.

[AtheistCrusader]

22. Oh, you understood me perfectly the first time.

[wildbilln864]

23. don't be afraid.....

what is your question?

[AtheistCrusader]

24. Post 18 contains the question.

Let me know when you figure it out.