Government's 8-step plan to end terror

[azurnoir]

An 8-step plan to deal with the recent wave of terror and unrest in Israel was put forward by the leader of the Likud's Knesset chairman in the form of temporary legislation Wednesday, and it purportedly will allow Israel to crackdown on terrorists, their families and supporters.

Those killed during their attempt to conduct a terror attack will not receive a funeral.

The body of terrorists will not be transferred to their families, and will be buried in an unknown location, without ceremony and without future access for their families

Terrorists' houses will be destroyed within 24-hours of the attack

Masked stone throwers and those inciting for terror and violence participating in illegal protests in which firebombs or fireworks were thrown will be arrested and held in remand until the completion of legal procedures against them. The same measures will be taken against those who waved an 'enemy flag' during the protests, including the Palestinian flag. Anyone convicted at the end of their remand will lose their social welfare benefits and driving license for a 10 year period.

Families of terrorists will lose their citizenship and will be deported to Gaza should they express support for their relative's deed. Support, according to the bill, can be expressed through public or social media.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4596305,00.html

[DetlefK]

1. Visit beautiful Israel. Where waving a flag and holding a particular political position is a crime.

And I don't think that punishing a whole family for the deeds of a single person is okay with the Geneva conventions.

But Israel is in noooooooo way a racist apartheid-state.

[bemildred]

2. Buffoons.

Let's put a Tiger Team on it.

And: always with the threats. Does nobody know that positive reinforcement works better these days? And it's generally cheaper too.

[Jefferson23]

3. Terrorist houses will be destroyed within 24 hours of the attack..so no trial or anything to

determine guilt...awesome.

Way to go, assholes.

[King_David]

4. Precedent set for step 1 and 2 by president Obama

WRT Osama Bun Laden same situation exactly.

[azurnoir]

5. you seem to equate any Palestinian terrorist with the leader of a global terror organization

I'm sure they might appreciate your promotion of their status

Star Member King_David (9,951 posts)
4. Precedent set for step 1 and 2 by president Obama

WRT Osama Bun Laden same situation exactly.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488593#post4

[King_David]

7. The slaying of innocent Jews in Synagogue in cold blood

Is no different from slaying of New York citizens in World Trade Center -- equally as evil, equally as cowardly, equally as meaningless.

[azurnoir]

10. so are you saying that the murder of 4 Jews is the same as the murder of 3000 citizens of NYC?

BTW you failed to mention the Druze policeman who also was murdered why is that? Once again I'm sure somewhere your promotion in the status of these 2 murders is appreciated or something

King_David
7. The slaying of innocent Jews in Synagogue in cold blood

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Is no different from slaying of New York citizens in World Trade Center -- equally as evil, equally as cowardly, equally as meaningless.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488593#post7

[King_David]

12. Cold blooded murderous terrorists are exactly the same

Yes .

But the real point is this is President Obamas precedent that Israel is now following.

[azurnoir]

16. so okay link us to where it says Israel is following Obamas precedent in deporting the families of t

and refusing them proper burial

[King_David]

17. You don't know what Obama

Did with Osama Bin Ladens body ?

Google it.

He never returned it to the family and buried it at sea where it could never be visited or made into a martyr .

No link necessary.

That's called precedent.

[azurnoir]

18. No I am asking you to link us to where it says Israel is following Obama's precedent in disposing of

bodies of terrorists, I am aware of what was done with OBL's body are you? Will Israel be preforming burial at sea also? Or is this a theory you came up with on your own?

[King_David]

19. Why would I need to link to anything?

I'm saying it...

Because it clearly is precedent.

Link ?

Not necessary

Unknown where these terrorists bodies are buried as is the place of Bin Laden's.

Exact same circumstance and solution.

[azurnoir]

22. why can you not provide us with a link seems a small thing to simply back up your own claims

so why not end any question some may have

King_David (9,972 posts)
19. Why would I need to link to anything?

I'm saying it...

Because it clearly is precedent.

Link ?

Not necessary

Unknown where these terrorists bodies are buried as is the place of Bin Laden's.

Exact same circumstance and solution.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488593#post19

[King_David]

26. Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=88661

[azurnoir]

28. A link to your own claims on this thread? No I meant a link authenticating your claims

you know second opinion something from the Israeli government, because this article did not mention any such thing, and oh will Israel be preforming burials at sea?

King_David
26. Link

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=88661

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488593#post26

[King_David]

29. They don't say if they doing burials at sea,

Why would I want a "second opinion " ?

That Obsma disposed of Bin Ladins body in an undisclosed place at sea without handing his body to the family --- is all fact. In that it preceded Israel doing it --- means it's precedent.

What's this "link" you keep going on about ?

[azurnoir]

30. I was requesting a link saying that the Israeli government is following Obama's precedent in refusin

to return the bodies of terrorists to their families, I mean there must be one somewhere authenticating that, right?

You didn't just make that up did you?

[King_David]

31. Authenticating fact ?

I'm not sure you understand ?

Obama was the 1st to refuse to return the body of terrorist to family.
Israel proposes doing that now.

Obama 1st , Israel 2nd.


This is all fact...and now I've explained it so many times to you that I can't do it again.


So hope it's clear now, I don't understand myself what you keep going on about a link but I'm no longer concerned and doesn't interest me that much that I need go around in these circles.


Hope you understand the precedent set by Obama now but if not, as I tell my students, that's the best I can do.

[azurnoir]

32. you have only given us your opinion. Facts are substantiated all of the time proves they're facts

hopefully you understand

[King_David]

33. None of it is opinion,

Google what happened to Osama Bin Laden.

It's all there and now this discussion is going into the "bizarre "

[azurnoir]

21. yes well link us up to your claim Israel following the POTUS by

refusing to allow the families of terrorists to have their bodies,

[King_David]

20. Whenever you reply to my posts I feel like there is an echo,

Anyone reading this is able to scroll back and read my post sans problem.

[azurnoir]

23. I do it for ease in keeping track of which post is which

Star Member King_David (9,972 posts)
20. Whenever you reply to my posts I feel like there is an echo,

Anyone reading this is able to scroll back and read my post sans problem.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113488593#post20

[King_David]

24. It's more confusing and makes the post much more difficult to read .

[azurnoir]

25. How so ? doesn't for me

[King_David]

27. There's a little hyperlink that tells you exactly which post a person is replying to ,

You welcome to carry on doing whatever you doing but by repeating every post it looks like your "documenting" the post for some kind of "proof" in case the post is edited or deleted.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

11. Or the slaying of two Palestinian children on Nakba day.

Right, dave?

[King_David]

13. No idea what you are talking about

Or what your point was.

Maybe it was posted on the wrong thread by accident ?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. I believe that you know exactly what I am referring to...

Your insistence on claiming ignorance of the most simple things truly is entertaining.

[King_David]

15. Okay. nt

[azurnoir]

6. already in motion

Israel revokes residency of Palestinian attacker's widow

Israel on Wednesday revoked the residency rights of the widow of a Palestinian who carried out a deadly attack on a Jerusalem synagogue, drawing condemnation from human rights groups.

The move came after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced he would seek broad powers to rescind the residency and welfare rights of any Palestinian citizen of Israel or resident of annexed East Jerusalem if they or their relatives participated in unrest.

"I have ordered the cancellation of Nadia Abu Jamal's permit to stay in Israel. Anyone who is involved in terror must take into account that there are likely to be implications for their family members too," Israeli Interior Minister Gilad Erdan said in a statement.

On Sunday, Israel revoked the residency of a Palestinian convicted of driving a suicide bomber to a Tel Aviv nightclub where he killed 21 people in 2001.

Mahmud Nadi had served a 10 year prison sentence for his part in the bombing.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=743000

[oberliner]

8. Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing

The attack[edit]
Suicide bomber Saeed Hotari was standing in line on a Friday night in front of the Dolphinarium, when the area was packed with youngsters (most of them Russian new arrivals) waiting for admission. Survivors of the attack later described how the young Palestinian bomber appeared to taunt his victims before the explosion, wandering among them dressed in clothes that led some to mistake him for an orthodox Jew from Asia, and banging a drum packed with explosives and ball bearings, while repeating the words in Hebrew: "Something's going to happen".[5] At 23:38, he detonated his explosive device. It was the second attack in five months on the same target.[6] Witnesses claimed that body parts lay all over the area, and that bodies were piled one above another on the sidewalk before being collected. Many civilians in the vicinity of the bombing rushed to assist emergency services.

One Israeli soldier and 20 civilians, mostly teenagers whose families immigrated from the former Soviet Union, died in the attack:[7]

Maria Tagiltseva, 14, of Netanya[8]
Raisa Nimrovsky, 15, of Netanya[9]
Ana Kazachkova, 15, of Holon[10]
Katherine Kastaniyada-Talkir, 15, of Ramat Gan[11]
Irina Nepomnyashchi, 16, of Bat Yam[12]
Mariana Medvedenko, 16, of Tel-Aviv[13]
Yulia Nelimov, 16, of Tel Aviv[14]
Liana Saakyan, 16, of Ramat Gan[15]
Marina Berkovizki, 17, of Tel Aviv[16]
Simona Rodin, 18, of Holon[17]
Aleksei Lupalu, 16, of the Ukraine[18]
Yelena Nelimov, 18, of Tel Aviv[19]
Irena Usdachi, 18, of Holon[20]
Ilya Gutman, 19, of Bat Yam[21]
Roman Dezanshvili, 21, of Bat Yam[22]
Pvt. Diez (Dani) Normanov, 21, of Tel Aviv[23]
Ori Shahar, 32, of Ramat Gan[24]
Yael-Yulia Sklianik, 15, of Holon[25] – died of her injuries on June 2, 2001
Sergei Panchenko, 20, Ukraine[26] – died of his injuries on June 2, 2001
Jan Bloom, 25, of Ramat Gan[27] – died of his injuries on June 3, 2001
Yevgeniya Dorfman, 15, of Bat-Yam[28] – died of her injuries on June 19, 2001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphinarium_discotheque_suicide_bombing

In case anyone isn't sure what the 10 year sentence was for.

[azurnoir]

9. thank you for that information, you do realize that the person being deported was not the bomber

do you support this persons deportation after he served his sentence?