Jordan Valley demolitions leave 50 Palestinians homeless

[azurnoir]

Israeli forces on Monday demolished four houses and eight agricultural structures in the southern Jordan Valley, leaving at least 50 Palestinians homeless, a local official said.

Fathi Shqaier, head of a campaign to support communities in the Jordan Valley, told Ma'an that Israeli forces demolished the properties in al-Auja village.

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The Jordan Valley forms roughly a third of the occupied West Bank, with 94 percent of the area off limits to Palestinian use and development.

Israel has declared around 56 percent of the total area to be part of closed military areas.

In 2012, 540 Palestinian structures were demolished in Area C due to a lack of Israeli-issued permits, displacing 815 people, over half children, the UN's Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=653294

[Jefferson23]

1. More of the piece process on display...in full force.

Facts on the ground and all that good stuff.


K&R

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. "Over 50 people have been left homeless by the demolitions, locals said."

The properties belonged to Musallem Kaabna, Rafe Salama Jihadin, Ahmad Salama Jihadin, Yousef Musallem Kaabna, Ali Musallem Kaabna, Yousef Jihadin, Ahmad Mohammad Najada, Oda Mohammad Najada, Mousa Najada, Omran Mousa Najada, and Omar Mousa Najada.

Najada added that some residents filed an appeal in Israeli courts and have official documents proving that the land belongs to the Islamic endowment.

I was told recently by a knob-headed muppet that the current system of apartheid or colonization is one of stability for Israel...and themselves.


These Palestinians are humans. What did they do to deserve having their homes destroyed? Nobody with good conscience can legitimize apartheid or colonization and claim security when security is denied to those under Israel's boot.

[oberliner]

3. Hamas faces rising anger after bulldozing Gaza homes

On May 16 Hamas police dragged his wife and eight children out of their squat cement house and pummelled him with wooden batons as bulldozers razed the building along with nearly 20 other homes.

"They didn't come here as a government, they came as an enemy power," he said, surrounded by several nodding neighbours who are also camping out at the site, an outcrop of sand dunes on the edge of the town.

"Whoever destroys my house is my enemy," he said.

Hamas authorities said they demolished the homes under a court order because they were illegally built on government land.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iFPsv5xO7nPqyXEwz2NH6fzRAtCQ

[azurnoir]

4. wow and as recent as 2010 too

guess Israel can't hold a candle to that huh?

[oberliner]

8. It's not all that recent

And it doesn't even come close to the scope and scale of Israeli house demolitions.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. Only a dimwt would believe that

I support Hamas, but thank you for bringing up an article from some time ago.

It illustrates how you have to apologize for Israel when none are acceptible.

I don't apologize for Hamas, but any 40 watt bulb would know that.

[oberliner]

7. I don't think you support Hamas

I offer no apology for Israel's actions.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

11. Then why deflect to Hamas, who

you believe that I do not support, instead of staying on topic?

What wad the reason of bringing up something on Hamas from 2010 when Israel does this to Palestinians on a near daily basis?

[oberliner]

12. Demolishing houses happens for reasons other than the ones you suggested

Palestinians demolish the homes of other Palestinians if they were built illegally.

Palestinian leadership only lets Palestinians build homes in certain areas and not in others.

The difference, of course, is that the Israeli leadership should not have any jurisdiction in the West Bank.

There should be two independent states living side by side in peace with one another.

Let's work together to try to make that happen.

[shaayecanaan]

19. That is the same event you posted as a distraction last time (nt)

[Jefferson23]

6. What did the Palestinians do to deserve having their homes destroyed? They got in the way, that's it

and Israel may get away with it.

[oberliner]

9. Two state solution

It's the only path forward for all concerned.

Let's work towards it together.

[Jefferson23]

10. I was referring to the Israeli government, a two state solution sounds very amenable but

it does not look likely to occur..not one that would provide a viable state for the Palestinians.

I prefer to be wrong about that.

[oberliner]

13. The Israeli government should not rule over the West Bank

If both sides worked seriously towards a two-state solution, then the Palestinians would have an independent state. Sadly, the current Israeli leadership is not keen on the idea, to put it mildly.

[Jefferson23]

14. Israel has the upper hand and Abbas is not reliable, and I am being kind

in my words about him, at the moment.

If Israel gets the land swaps they want, it will be a Bantustan state left for the Palestinians.

There is no pressure coming from the US, for example, remember what Obama said this
past winter about E1? He knows it's wrong but no pressure, regardless...none I am aware
of anyway.

[oberliner]

15. So what would you propose?

What is a more realistic and equitable solution?

[Jefferson23]

16. The US should be an honest broker, but they are not. Not much chance of peace

without that support....but there is always the Palestinians, themselves. If the
situation ignites an uprising, there may be a very different more positive outcome for them.

I don't have anything to propose other than I prefer to see the US do what is right
and use their power to end the misery once and for all. They already know what they should
have supported long ago but they're not going to do it.

The United Nations General Assembly

“Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine.”


snip* “Affirming the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”;
“Affirming also the illegality of the Israeli settlements in the territory occupied since 1967 and of Israeli actions aimed at changing the status of Jerusalem”;
“Stresses the need for: (a) The realization of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people, primarily the right to self-determination; (b) The withdrawal of Israel from the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967”;
“Also stresses the need for resolving the problem of the Palestine refugees in conformity with its resolution 194 (III) of 11 December 1948.”

http://www.un.org/en/ga/68/resolutions.shtml

[oberliner]

17. An uprising?

"If the situation ignites an uprising, there may be a very different more positive outcome for them."

Can you clarify what you mean by that?

[Jefferson23]

18. oberliner, what do you think it means?

Really now, an uprising, en masse, in protest. The Israeli government has the US at it's
back but the Israeli government does not have international support from the people
of the ME and among most nations to leave the Palestinians with little more than
a Bantustan state. Look at the UN resolution..how that number weighed in support
vs those who voted no. It would be over for Israel's business as usual, they would
have to vacate the settlements..at the very least, compensate for the ROR, etc.

No one can call for such a thing, an uprising develops from within the people themselves.

If you fear such a thing, don't worry...it looks like Israel will get its way.