'I Saw Ariel Sharon Murder 2 Palestinian Toddlers In Lebanon'

[Purveyor]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lithos (a host of the Israel/Palestine group).

Dutch media this month published articles accusing Ariel Sharon of murdering Palestinian children in Lebanon. Former officials who worked with Sharon said the publications were false. The Israeli foreign ministry called the claim "a modern blood libel."

The claim first appeared in the Volkskrant, the third largest paper in the Netherlands, in an interview with the well-known Dutch-Jewish director George Sluizer. According to Sluizer, 78, he witnessed Sharon killing two Palestinian toddlers with a pistol in 1982 near the refugee camp Sabra-Shatilla while filming a documentary there.

“I met Sharon and saw him kill two children before my eyes,” said Sluizer, who lives in Amsterdam. Sluizer has made several documentaries about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but is best known for directing The Vanishing with Jeff Bridges and Kiefer Sutherland in 1992.

Sluizer repeated the accusation in an interview for Vrij Nederland, an intellectual magazine, published on November 13 ahead of a screening of his film at the prestigious International Documentary Film Festival Amsterdam. “Sharon shot two children like you shoot rabbits, in front of my eyes,” he said.

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/i-saw-ariel-sharon-murder-2-palestinian-toddlers-in-lebanon-1.325540

[COLGATE4]

1. ... and then he drained their blood

and used it to make Passover Matzohs. My God - this is right out of Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[oberliner]

2. This article is from 2010

Why are you posting it now?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. What would you care?

You post stories about beauty queens in I/P.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113433349

[oberliner]

5. Usually stories posted in I/P are recent ones

There used to be a rule about it in the old days before you got here.

I'm wondering why this three-year old story would be posted now by an old time regular poster who normally doesn't do that sort of thing.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. Usually stories posted in I/P pertain to I/P issues.

My point was that there are a lot of excuses obviously for posting articles in I/P that should belong in GD or the M.E. forum.

So why do you post stories about beauty queens in I/P exactly?

[Scootaloo]

17. Funny how picky they are, except about their own material.

Careful, they'll start arguing that you should lead a flotilla to Bolivia, or that you're racist against antideestablismentarianism or something.

[Purveyor]

8. Just to see if you are 'earning your keep'... ;) eom

[oberliner]

11. Can you share why you posted this particular three year old article today?

Just curious.

[Purveyor]

12. Nope. eom

[azurnoir]

4. regardless of the veracity of this article I found this part interesting

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Sharon’s successor as defense minister, Moshe Arens, said Sluizer’s account was “a lie.” According to Arens, “Sharon would never shoot a child and he was not in Lebanon in November of 1982. Thirdly, protocol prohibits ministers from wearing weapons. As civilians they are not allowed to carry firearms.”

I guess that means the everything from a side arm to an M-16 wielding settlers are not really civilians then

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

7. The settler/civis are actually double-secret ninja IDF.

But I would rather understand how this ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/113433349 ) passes for an I/P worthy article while the critic of the OP wants to now follow "old" I/P rules.

[holdencaufield]

9. "I Married the Bat Boy"

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[Purveyor]

10. Actually THAT wouldn't surprise me one iota. eom

[holdencaufield]

13. My parents were totally against it ...

... until Bat Boy finished Med School and the first baby came along

[Purveyor]

14. LOL ;)

[oberliner]

15. Still trying to piece together what brought this 2010 article to your attention today

Perhaps it was reprinted by a site you don't wish to identify?

One does not normally just stumble across an article from three years ago by chance.

Are you willing to solve the mystery?

[Purveyor]

16. Have you problems with the definition of 'nope'? Besides, what the fuck does it matter other

than a reminder of a war criminal that some of you people still hold in high esteem?

Just wait until the vile bastard actually dies...you haven't seen nothing yet when it comes to a fitting 'tribute' to the 'bulldozer'.

[Scootaloo]

18. Well, on the one hand, it's rather "out there." But on the other hand... it's Ariel Sharon

Saying "I saw Ariel Sharon shoot two toddlers" is a lot like saying "I saw Mike Tyson eat two toddlers." Your first response is "WOW, that sounds crazy!" but then you go "Well... it IS Sharon / Tyson."

Sluizer's been saying it since '82, apparently. And I'm not finding anything else from him regarding Israel at all... but then, hey, google only goes back so far, I suppose.

My take on it? I wouldn't put it past Sharon. That said, I would need more than one man's eyewitness testimony to accept it. As would anyone who's taken the gorilla test, I hope.

[Lithos]

19. Locking

not even close to being a recent news article.

Lithos