Latin American diplomats: We can be doing more to pressure Israel

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://972mag.com/latin-american-diplomats-we-can-be-doing-more-to-pressure-israel/110970/

Speaking at a one-day conference in London, Latin American diplomats call for tougher policies, including sanctions and boycotts, against Israel for its ‘polices of apartheid.’

A year after Israel faced widespread censure from Latin America over its attack on the Gaza Strip, diplomats from the region have warned that a further deterioration in relations could be on the cards.

Speaking at a conference in London on Saturday, Ecuador’s Minister of Culture Guillaume Long warned that should there be a repeat of the 2014 war, which he described as a “genocide,” then Israel can expect similar, or even more serious, steps from other Latin American governments.
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In his address, Long noted that while Latin American solidarity with Palestine has a long history on the political Left, what is new is that this Left is now in power in many countries across the region. The Left remembers, Long pointed out, the “historical role Israel has played in Latin America,” with its arms sales and support for dictatorships and right-wing paramilitary groups.

This is BDS. It is a growing movement of people, organizations and countries who are fed up with the Israeli lifestyle of coloniation, apartheid, human rights abuses and outright land theft in the name of zionism.
And those right wingers who have hijacked zionism also wishto discredit the growing movement against them bydeclaring them anti-zionists and anti-Semites.

Yes, there will be some pretend Democrats and progressives, right wingers in sheeps clothing, that will howl about it notbeing fair or that BDS is full of bigots, but what they really are attempting to do is silence a waking giant.

Geuss what? It won't work, and the world is making that point crystal clear.

If zionism = land theft, illegal colonization, human rights abuses, apartheid and murder then I am against zionism.

That's the message that the world is sending as well, and the world is not happy to say the least.

BDS.

[oberliner]

1. Protests by 1,000s of Ecuadorians meet with brutal repression

Would you believe me if I told you that while president Rafael Correa was singing “Hasta siempre, comandante” with a band in the main square in central Quito last Thursday night just one block away riot police were tear-gassing and clubbing Ecuadorian citizens? Or that elsewhere in Ecuador the police have been reported to be specifically targeting female protestors’ “intimate parts”?

Ecuador is currently in turmoil. Thousands of people are protesting proposed constitutional amendments, the expansion of the oil frontier, mining projects, changes to water and education policy, labour laws and pensions, a proposed “Free Trade Agreement” (FTA) with the European Union (EU), and increasing repression of freedom of speech, among other things. The government’s response? To send the police and military with batons and tear-gas to beat citizens, make arbitrary arrests, raid homes and even – some people believe – to take advantage of volcanic eruptions by declaring a nationwide “State of Exception”.

The protests have taken different forms. Indigenous people marched for 10 days from the Zamora Chinchipe province in the Amazon to Quito, 1,000s and 1,000s of people gathered in the capital last week, and another march involving approximately 2,000 people was held there on Monday. In addition, a series of demonstrations and road-blocks have sprung up elsewhere in the country.

“I’ve never seen anything like it before,” Patricia Gualinga, a Kichwa leader from the Amazon, told the Guardian, talking about the violence that broke out in Quito’s narrow streets last week. “Total brutality. They were using motor-bikes, horses and tear-gas bombs. You can’t imagine what it’s like if you didn’t see it.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/andes-to-the-amazon/2015/aug/19/protests-ecuadorians-brutal-repression

No surprise that Ecuador would want to deflect attention away from their own repression.

[King_David]

2. Changing the subject to the Jewish State

Hey it's worked so well for countries in the Middle East such as Egypt and KSA and even Turkey. To deflect from domestic policy... Why don't we try and see if it works in Latin America?

( surprisingly some people here on DU still show support for the BDS movement even after recent events have outed the BDS as being antisemitic as well as homophobic- very strange to see on a Democratic Party supporting website and even stranger to see Bernie Sander avatar accompaniing it ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110952

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110600
)

[azurnoir]

3. the only IMO that got outed as YOU say was that a Spanish reggae festival took a cowardly way out of

taking responsibility for what was their own decision to dis-invite a Jewish reggae performer and blamed BDS

King_David
2. Changing the subject to the Jewish State

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Hey it's worked so well for countries in the Middle East such as Egypt and KSA and even Turkey. To deflect from domestic policy... Why don't we try and see if it works in Latin America?

( surprisingly some people here on DU still show support for the BDS movement even after recent events have outed the BDS as being antisemitic as well as homophobic- very strange to see on a Democratic Party supporting website and even stranger to see Bernie Sander avatar accompaniing it ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110952

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110600
)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110956#post2

[King_David]

10. What does that mean?

[shira]

19. So u think the festival was wrong when it initially banned Matisyahu? n/t

[King_David]

20. Yet another example of the BDS Org's Jew hatred?

How many times do they have to demonstrate they hate Jews and Zionists?

Is it always an exception ?

Think Bernie Sander would support this Jew hatred ?

Fuck no!

Bernie Sander is Jewish after all

[azurnoir]

27. Well my I thought it was a Sunsplash festival not a BDS festival but it must be BDS is in charge

and Bernie Sanders hasn't sad much about if anything about BDS, that would be Hillary's thing helped by the millions pledged to her campaign by Haim Saban not to mention the millions he pumped into the Clinton foundation

In Los Angeles, a Clinton fundraising dinner will be held by Cheryl and Haim Saban, an entertainment mogul who created the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. The billionaire couple, through their family foundation, donated between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation, making the couple among the philanthropy's biggest benefactors. Haim Saban frequently invites the former first lady to his annual foreign policy meetings in Washington.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-foundation-donors-are-funding-hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-2015-4#ixzz3jn5ISbta

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. ...and the excuses begin I see...

[oberliner]

5. So this conference was created by Middle East Monitor

And representatives from just three Latin American countries were present (Ecuador, Bolivia, and Cuba).

Each have repressive regimes (to say the least) and have been virulently anti-Israel for many years.

Meanwhile:

Israel joins Costa Rica as Pacific Alliance observer state

February 11, 2014 (AFP) – Israel has been accepted as an observer state to the Pacific Alliance, a trade bloc grouping four of Latin America’s fastest-growing economies, officials said Tuesday.

http://insidecostarica.com/2014/02/12/israel-joins-costa-rica-pacific-alliance-observer-state/

[shira]

6. Brutal, oppressive LW dictators & tyrants are cool if they support BDS. n/t

[shira]

7. This conference was setup by Ibrahim Hewitt's fascist, pro-Hamas MEMO.

What a joke.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. If anything is the joke, shira,

it is the sad tantrums where any time Israel is criticized leads to the renting if garments and nashing if the teeths.

BDS!

[shira]

9. So Hamas fascists & Latin American tyrants who oppose Zionism...

....are important for some odd reason.

Care to explain?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

12. BDS is a growing movement, shira, that some

will always find fault with; especially thise who support the Apartheid state, and all its evil doings.

Perhaps you'll understand someday.

[shira]

15. Oppressive tyrants & dictators are cool when they support BDS?

Not a great selling point for BDS.

But go for it...



I don't see how promoting the BDS views of gay-bashing Jew haters (like the pro-Hamas MEMO & their fascist friends) is a good thing, but maybe you can explain.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

16. Try re-reading post #12 a few times.

[shira]

18. Using homophobic Jew hating fascist tyrants who advocate BDS...

....while posing as human rights advocates probably isn't the best way to sell BDS on a liberal board.

What an enormous FAIL.

Enormous.

How utterly pathetic.

Bookmarked.

[King_David]

21. BDS Org's actually a hate movement

They and their supporters should not be tolerated on DU.

Pure hate.

Antisemitic and homophobic hate.

Hopefully Bernie Sanders routs this hate out.

It has no place on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110952

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134110600

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Perhaps you should peruse the BDS site then find some enlightenment.

It's strange that you have a hard time with BDS, and yet you supported the Tennessee *GOP in their efforts to ban BDS; seeing how the Tennessee GOP are LGBTQ-hating SOBs.

Why anybody would get into bed with those guys is beyond me.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

22. Try re-reading post #12 a few more times. You're completely out of your depth, shira.

[King_David]

25. .

On Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:28 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Try re-reading post #12 a few more times. You're completely out of your depth, shira.
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Thank you.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. Tough break.

[Israeli]

28. The hypocrisy is outstanding is it not ?....

ref : " If you can not be civil on DU to another fellow DUr no matter the argument you should ignore rather than be rude. "

[King_David]

31. Sounds like sage advice rather than hypocrisy ...

[Israeli]

29. Heard any reports on this .....

....in the American media R. Daneel Olivaw ??.....seems to have slipped under their radar although was published as front page news by the daily Ma’ariv in Hebrew on the 10th of this month :

CONCERNS ABOUT EUROPEAN BOYCOTT:
[ISRAELI] BANKS PREPARE FOR A "FINANCIAL-NATIONAL TSUNAMI"

Article in Israeli Maariv, 10/08/2015, by Ben Caspit
Translation: Jonathan Ofir

The banks are in panic following a document produced by the research institute facilitating the EU. According to its recommendations, the union must boycott Israeli banks involved in financial activity in the occupied territories.

Continue reading full translation @ ...

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ofir/posts/10153275776134342

[King_David]

32. Now we are using Facebook as a source?

Interesting.....

[Israeli]

34. The source is Maariv.....

Was originally published in their newspaper as front page news ....also is on their on-line site @

http://www.maariv.co.il/news/israel/Article-492826

They dont do english King_David thus the translation ......would you care to verify Jonathan Ofir's translation from Facebook ????

[King_David]

35. No that's fine, thanks for the explanation. nt

[Israeli]

37. You are very welcome .....

....now that we have your problem with the source sorted out ....perhaps you could answer my question ???...... have you heard any reports on this in the American media ?????

If not , why not ??

What is your opinion KD .......apart from some silly comment about the source .

[King_David]

38. No I have not

A single report in Maariv in Hebrew and nowhere else in English?

Maybe it's just a non story.

[Israeli]

39. Thank you KD ...

You have just made my point .

If its not reported in english .......you Americans dont get it .

Its a " non story "

Its not a non story tho is it King_David ?

[King_David]

42. "you Americans dont get it'

As a matter of interest why do you think its advantageous to keep insulting Americans on an American website?

In my experience Israelis really love Americans.

Israelis call us Anglos for some strange reason and the boys often call me AngloSexy....

[Israeli]

43. Seriously....

....you took that as an insult ??

There was no insult intended King_David.

I just find it fascinating what does and what does not get reported in your media .

[King_David]

45. Okay

It's difficult to tell "tone" in text.
No insult...

[Israeli]

40. " and nowhere else in English? " ....

Did a Google search just for you KD .

Guess what ??

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/flipping-looming-european



I was wrong ....It is being reported in english .

[King_David]

41. I don't read Mondoweiss

I don't consider it credible... Some consider it a hate site.... I personally think it should not be used on DU as DU is a Democratic Party supporting site and shares absolutely Zero values with Mondoweiss.

[Israeli]

44. ....but you do read Hebrew dont you ???

This discussion is not about Mondoweiss King_David ........its about this :



Front page of Maariv !!!

According to you its just a non story

quote :

A single report in Maariv in Hebrew and nowhere else in English?

Maybe it's just a non story.

[oberliner]

46. Very little of what is in Ma'ariv gets published in the US media

I'm not sure why you would think that it would.

[Israeli]

47. Did you read it oberliner ??

In the past weeks, the evidences regarding the EU consideration of these recommendations positively are culminating. Continuing deterioration of the Israel-USA relationship lessens the chances that the Americans would attempt to halt this European action. Perhaps the opposite may be true. According to various diplomatic sources, it is precisely the Americans who are unleashing Europe recently and encouraging Europe to tighten its activity against the continuation of the Israeli settlement policy in the occupied territories.

"One way or another", officials in the Israeli banking system say, "it's necessary to understand what will happen here on the day that it will be decided to to 'credit mark'. When you mark products it can harm part of the market here and there, but when they mark each credit that the bank gives beyond the Green Line [1967 line] and boycott that bank, the meaning of it is a property confiscation warrant on all the banks. The European banking and credit system is inextricably connected to the Israeli economy, no European bank will accompany projects in Israel, it will not be possible to receive credit in Europe and there is nothing we would be able to do about it".

BTW ...........breaking news over here :

EU envoy warns of more steps against Israeli settlements
Associated Press
Published: 08.27.15, 14:20 / Israel News

The European Union's outgoing envoy to the Palestinian territories says the 28-nation bloc is moving forward with measures against Jewish West Bank settlements.

The envoy, John Gatt-Rutter, did not provide a timeframe. But his remarks to reporters Thursday underline European discontent with Israel's continued expansion of settlements in territory that Palestinians want for a future state.

Source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4695164,00.html

BDS not working.... huh .

[oberliner]

48. Yes

But I'm just saying that most of what is in Ma'ariv isn't in the US press.

I'm also not sure where you think I said that BDS is not working. I think it is extremely effective especially when it focuses on the Occupied Territories.

[King_David]

11. LOL

Seriously?

Ha ha

[shira]

13. You surprised? MEMO's Hewitt hates Jews and Gays...

....just like the BDS posers over at SunSplash the past week in Spain.

Shocking, huh?

[King_David]

14. I'm not that surprised actually.

[Little Tich]

30. Apparently Jeremy Corbyn was supposed to attend, his name is on the flyer.

Source: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/palestine-latin-america-building-solidarity-for-national-rights-registration-17340534004#lightbox_contact


Here's a link to a liveblog and video of the conference:

LIVE BLOG: Palestine & Latin America in the 21st Century
Source: Middle East Monitor, Friday, 21 August 2015
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/media-review/event-review/20568-live-blog-palestine-a-latin-america-in-the-21st-century

[oberliner]

33. Middle East Monitor presents...

This is a very informative flyer.

Middle East Monitor is obviously a propaganda site (not a news site) allied with the BDS movement.

Hopefully it will be treated accordingly from now on.

The video is also quite interesting - thanks for posting the link.

[Little Tich]

36. You're welcome.

Personally, I'm a little bit wary of Corbyn. I don't really know who he is, but his supporters seem to be a little bit unhinged. And I had no idea that Middle East Monitor was active in politics, but I don't think it's a BDS propaganda site.