Israel Police arrest 6-year-old East Jerusalem boy suspected of stoning bus

[azurnoir]

Police arrested and detained a 6-year-old boy from Wadi Joz in East Jerusalem on Tuesday, without allowing his parents to meet with him. Part of the time the child was held in a squad car, and during questioning he was asked if he wanted to be a martyr.

Undercover operatives stopped their patrol car near the boy and his older brother, 12, on Tuesday at around 7:30 P.M., and arrested them both. According to police, the boys had just thrown rocks at a bus.

By law, children under 12 years of age, the age of criminal responsibility, may not be arrested or detained.

The children were taken by squad car to National Police Headquarters, where family members saw them in the vehicle in the parking lot. At 11:30 P.M. the children were taken to the Shalem police station. The 6-year-old was not released to his parents until 3:30 A.M.

The police brought the older brother to court yesterday and requested a three-day remand, but the judge ordered him released under restrictions. On Monday, the children’s two cousins, ages 13 and 15, were arrested.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.654234

[Israeli]

1. I wonder what excuses will be posted ...

....for this one .

For stories of children and stones that will break your heart go to mahsanmilim azurnoir .

http://www.mahsanmilim.com/FearWasPouredOnUsE.htm

Long live the occupation

[azurnoir]

4. Thank you for posting that story

and a source that's new to me , as for your other comment see below

[Israeli]

5. I see ...

"LOL" ....says it all .

Heartless azurnoir ......cold blooded like lizards

[oberliner]

2. Here's the only paragraph you decided to leave out for some reason

Police responded that the two boys had been caught throwing stones at a bus and were “immediately removed from the area to prevent further disturbance of the peace.” Police said the parents were summoned to the police facility where the children were, and “after investigation the minor below the age of criminal responsibility was released and a report made to welfare authorizes regarding him.”

[King_David]

3. " for some reason " ?

LOL

[shira]

17. Better to pretend the boy was arrested. That way the daily demonization....

....can continue.

[azurnoir]

24. apparently you neglected to read the title to the OP

because it's there

[Jefferson23]

6. So even though he is released, he was arrested first because 6 year olds must be

treated as such. Nice way to think, if you're into promoting terror on a population...fuckers.

[King_David]

7. Except he wasn't arrested

Strange that 6 year old was there without parental supervision, one wonders what kind of parents would allow that?. Was removed from a danger and released to his parents.
Children's aid would of been more appropriate to investigate these parents.

[Jefferson23]

8. You need to read:

Police arrested and detained a 6-year-old boy from Wadi Joz in East Jerusalem on Tuesday, without allowing his parents to meet with him. Part of the time the child was held in a squad car, and during questioning he was asked if he wanted to be a martyr.

[King_David]

11. Was he booked , who decided he was "arrested?

Police responded that the two boys had been caught throwing stones at a bus and were “immediately removed from the area to prevent further disturbance of the peace.” Police said the parents were summoned to the police facility where the children were, and “after investigation the minor below the age of criminal responsibility was released and a report made to welfare authorizes regarding him.”

[Jefferson23]

14. Take your absurd speculations to the publication...they used the word, arrested. n/t

[King_David]

16. I don't think it's absurd though.

[oberliner]

9. Six-year-old girl handcuffed and arrested for throwing tantrum at Georgia elementary school

(CBS/WMAZ) MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. - A 6-year-old elementary school student was handcuffed and arrested Friday after she allegedly threw a tantrum in class.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/six-year-old-girl-handcuffed-and-arrested-for-throwing-tantrum-at-georgia-elementary-school/

[guillaumeb]

10. are you equating Israel and the US?

Let us compare the two countries:

1) Willingness to use genocide: Yes for both countries.

2) Stealing land from others: Yes for both countries.

3) treating minorities as second class citizens: Yes for both countries.

4) Willing to ignore International Law: Yes for both countries.

I could go on, but I suppose you are correct.

[King_David]

12. Another antiAmericanism from our Canadian friend huh ?

Canada’s race problem? It’s even worse than America’s.
For a country so self-satisfied with its image of progressive tolerance, how is this not a national crisis?

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/out-of-sight-out-of-mind-2/

[guillaumeb]

15. Will there be a response to the substance of my post?

I will guess no. But I am willing to be surprised. And for the record, I am a "dualie" when it comes to citizenship.

[King_David]

19. Well if that's the case I'm not sure why anyone would live in freezing cold canada

When they could live in Miami or San Diego.

[guillaumeb]

23. cold is good for you

plus it is only cold from September until May. The rest of the year is reasonably warm.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

42. As a New Englander I too understand that

the cold builds character. Too much heat could lead to despicable acts such as fawning admiration for LGBTQ-hating legislatures...IMHO.

[guillaumeb]

44. How far north in New England?

I have family in Van Buren, Maine. As far north as one can be in the US and, as Sarah Palin would say, you can see New Brunswick from there.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

47. North West of Boston. I used to live in Bangor when I worked for UMO. Go Blackbears!

I have always wanted to live in Burlington VT, but my work kept me in Boston and surrounding areas.

[Jefferson23]

18. It is more about santizing Israeli policy, as if terrorizing a child in the US, which is what

occurred, limits Israeli policy as unique and less horrific.

[shira]

21. It's about contexualizing the situation, rather than always defaming Israel

In this case, the boy wasn't even arrested, but I guess there's a purpose to lie and slander Israel 24-7-365.

[azurnoir]

25. what's the legal age for arrest in Georgia? Is it below 6?

[King_David]

13. Six-Year-Old Arrested For Playing Doctor

A six-year-old boy from Wisconsin has been charged with first-degree sexual assault after playing “doctor” with two five-year-old friends.


https://lawdiva.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/six-year-old-arrested-for-playing-doctor/

[shira]

20. Time for BDS against America? n/t

[azurnoir]

30. If you say so, perhaps it could start in Israel

[shira]

35. Sure, once you prove the goal of BDS is 1 Jewish state next to 1 Palestinian state. n/t

[azurnoir]

28. well is there an age limit on arresting in Wisconsin? Was the boys name released?

was he held for more than 8 hours before his parents were allowed to see him? was he questioned while alone with no representation?

but you do have a point ridiculous things happen everywhere

[shira]

22. Your avatar is Bernie Sanders? Great! He's a big time Zionist. n/t

[shaayecanaan]

26. I'm sure you'll get behind him

he's a real mensch, right? Same as Ed Miliband. When he romps in on May 7 I'm sure you'll be raising a tall glass of apple scrumpy right there with me.

[shira]

27. Why wouldn't I? You really think I'd vote Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, or Michael Rubio instead? n/t

[azurnoir]

29. Well yes his domestic policies are admirable and generally in elections that's my first concern

[oberliner]

31. But on DU, Israel appears to be your first concern

Favorite group: Israel/Palestine, 678 posts in the last 90 days (55% of total posts)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=183426

[azurnoir]

32. strange isn't it? does it bother you so very badly?

[oberliner]

33. Not at all

I have an even higher percentage.

Favorite group: Israel/Palestine, 465 posts in the last 90 days (58% of total posts)

You are one of my favorite people to debate with on here as we go back probably the farthest.

[azurnoir]

34. actually looking at my recs would be a better indicator

[shira]

36. yeah, it is strange given your claim that your 1st concern is domestic policy. n/t

[azurnoir]

43. I said when voting, you know real world stuff

so because 100% of your posts are in I/P are we to assume you vote for the most ProIsrael candidate?

[King_David]

45. Which democratic candidate is not pro Israel ?

[azurnoir]

46. are there any current candidates from either major American party that are not "ProIsrael"?

[cali]

40. actually, no more than the vast,vast majority in Congress

and less than many. He skipped Nutso's speech and albeit modestly, he has spoken out against Israeli "overreaction" So, yes, he's pro Israel, but he hardly stands out in his pro-Israel views.

<snip>

What the encounter demonstrated is that Sanders’s own leftwing base has no illusions about Israel, they see the country as a marauding human rights abuser. But while he faulted Israeli “overreaction” in Gaza, and has issued criticisms of Israeli conduct over the years and has bucked the Israel lobby over its opposition to Palestinian statehood initiatives at the U.N., Sanders cleaves to a very conventional mainstream view of the conflict, in which Hamas is to blame, the Palestinians leadership is not a partner, and Arab countries are bad actors (as he has said in 2009). - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic#sthash.XCDz0WlR.dpuf

[oberliner]

41. Great point

The vast, vast majority in Congress are Zionists or at least are supportive of the Zionist idea. Including progressives like Bernie Sanders.

[Jefferson23]

37. Israel detains 4 children in 2 days from same Jerusalem family

BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- Undercover Israeli operatives detained and interrogated a 7-year-old Palestinian boy and his twelve-year-old brother in occupied East Jerusalem Tuesday, only a day after two 15-year-olds from the same family were taken.

The boy and his older brother, from the Zaatari family in the occupied East Jerusalem neighborhood of Wadi al-Joz, were detained by Israeli operatives dressed as Palestinian locals while walking in the street Tuesday evening, the boys' grandfather told Ma'an.

The Zaatari family has had four children detained this week, Ihab Ahmed Zaatari, 7, and Muhammad Mahdi Zaatari 12, detained on Tuesday just one day after Alaa Magdy Zaatari and Mehdi Barakat Zaatari, both 15, were detained Monday.

An Israeli police spokesperson did not immediately return Ma'an's request for information on the incident, but told Israeli media the children were detained after throwing rocks at a bus.

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=765160

[Israeli]

38. The illusion of change in the West Bank military courts.........

http://972mag.com/the-illusion-of-change-in-the-west-bank-military-courts/106221/

In 2014 the military authorities acknowledged that the detention of children in the West Bank had become “especially sensitive” with the potential to “inflict real harm on the legitimacy of Israel’s actions in the West Bank.” However, recent developments suggest that the military authorities are handling this “sensitive” issue as a public relations problem rather than anything more substantive.

[Jefferson23]

39. They do try but the veneer is thin and with many holes, thanks to human rights groups.

*Although the use of double interrogations is not new, the provision of written notification of one’s rights whilst in custody appears to be a recent development. The sequence of events in which this occurs, however, suggests an absence of any genuine intention to inform minors of their legal rights in such a manner so as to enable them to be effectively exercised.