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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:49 AM Mar 2015

Thousands of snow geese fall dead from sky in Idaho

SALMON, Idaho (Reuters) - Avian cholera is suspected in the deaths of at least 2,000 snow geese that fell dead from the sky in Idaho while migrating to nesting grounds on the northern coast of Alaska, wildlife managers said Monday.

Dozens of Idaho Department of Fish and Game workers and volunteers at the weekend retrieved and incinerated carcasses of snow geese found near bodies of water and a wildlife management area in the eastern part of the state, said agency spokesman Gregg Losinski.

Avian cholera is believed to be the culprit in the deaths mostly because of the way the birds died, he said.


http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-snow-geese-fall-dead-sky-idaho-031205255.html

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Thousands of snow geese fall dead from sky in Idaho (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 OP
really cholera all at the same time while flying Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #1
yeah, i'm not buying that all at once supposition without a post-mortem examination Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #3
Chem trails, fer sure pscot Mar 2015 #5
Nah... it's radiation from the 2016 explosion at Fukushima Unit 3 FBaggins Mar 2015 #7
Heading toward Alaska, probably died of heat stroke. NV Whino Mar 2015 #2
this needs more checking oldandhappy Mar 2015 #4
CO2 trees1planet Mar 2015 #6
IDAHO FISH AND GAME Upper Snake NEWS RELEASE OKIsItJustMe Mar 2015 #8
"It's important to understand that a sick bird can't fly," Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 #10
Were these guys anywhere in the vicinity? NickB79 Mar 2015 #9

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. yeah, i'm not buying that all at once supposition without a post-mortem examination
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:36 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:38 AM - Edit history (1)

I could call it chem trails or high energy electro magnetic beam without scientific backing.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
7. Nah... it's radiation from the 2016 explosion at Fukushima Unit 3
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:38 PM
Mar 2015

The nuclear explosion will occur when they try to remove damaged fuel from the Unit 3 SFP, blanketing the northern hemisphere with deadly radiation... some of which will travel a year back in time and kill these poor geese.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
4. this needs more checking
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:18 AM
Mar 2015

Where did they eat or rest or ???

I think 2,000 geese dead with suspected cholera is more than sad.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
8. IDAHO FISH AND GAME Upper Snake NEWS RELEASE
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 04:47 PM
Mar 2015
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/public/media/viewNewsRelease.cfm?newsID=7561
IDAHO FISH AND GAME
Upper Snake NEWS RELEASE
Idaho Falls, ID

Date:
March 16, 2015

Contact:
gregg losinski
[email protected]
(208) 525-7290

[font face=Serif][font size=5]Suspected Avian Cholera Outbreak Claims 2,000 Migrating Snow Geese[/font]

[font size=3]MUD LAKE - The Idaho Department of Fish & Game (IDFG) is reporting that during the past weekend staff and volunteers collected the carcasses of approximately 2,000 migrating snow geese that appeared to have succumbed to avian cholera and died while stopping at Mud Lake and Market Lake Wildlife Management Areas (WMAs), on their way back north to their nesting grounds in Northern Alaska. The carcasses were collected and will be incinerated so that other predatory and scavenger birds do not ingest the deadly bacteria. Results are not yet back from the IDFG Wildlife Laboratory to definitively confirm avian cholera, but apparent symptoms seem to indicate the disease. According to the United States Geographical Survey Health Laboratory, humans are not at a high risk of infection from the bacteria causing avian cholera.

The carcasses of a small number of snow geese were first reported at Camas National Wildlife Refuge near Dubois, Idaho. Closer inspection on Friday found higher numbers of dead birds at the Mud Lake WMA Area near Terreton, Idaho and a lesser amount at Market Lake WMA near Roberts, Idaho. The migratory birds were on the return leg of their migration from the southwestern United States and Mexico to their breeding grounds on the northern coast of Alaska. It is unknown at this time where the geese may have picked up the suspected bacteria. "Outbreaks of avian cholera have occurred sporadically in the region over the past few decades," said Upper Snake Regional Supervisor Steve Schmidt.

According to Schmidt, "The important thing is to quickly collect as many of the carcasses as possible, to prevent other birds from feeding on the infected birds." In the case of Mud Lake WMA, biologists observed about twenty eagles in the vicinity of some of the carcasses. Because of a delayed incubation period it is uncertain where these eagles might be located, if and when the avian cholera affects them.

If the public observes dead birds, they are asked to call and report the location to the Upper Snake Regional Office at 208-525-7290. While there is little possibility of humans contracting the disease, the public is asked to not handle dead birds because of the potential for unintentionally distributing the disease to other wildlife. [/font][/font]
(Emphasis added by me.)

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. "It's important to understand that a sick bird can't fly,"
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:36 AM
Mar 2015

Three years ago, we had a story where 5,000 birds all died at once in Arkansas. The usual "rational" explanations -- you know, the explanations that are given because no one dares think that anything else could be going on -- came out and included fireworks (lol) and a thunderstorm. The birds were examined and found to have died due to blunt force trauma.


In 2012, commenting on the bird deaths in Arkansas, an expert said "It's important to understand that a sick bird can't fly," Karen Rowe, an ornithologist with the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission told Time.com. "So whatever happened to these birds happened very quickly. Something must have caused these birds to flush out of the trees at night, where they're normally just roosting and staying in the treetops ... and then something got them out of the air and caused their death and then they fell to earth."

http://www.livescience.com/32914-what-causes-mass-bird-deaths.html

I await the Post-mortem examation on this affair too.

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