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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:39 PM Oct 2012

NBC had a special last night on Sandy...

it was pretty interesting in a couple ways.

Firstly, I think it was the first time I've ever seen MSM weather people and reporters generically agreeing that climate change is a real thing, and is happening to us now. There were several points during the program where they specifically mentioned that "we are now having 100-year weather events every year," and (finally) observing that this just another way of saying "the climate is changing"

On the more frustrating side, it was irritating to me to watch nearly every man-on-the-street being interviewed say almost exactly the same thing: "we never imagined something like this could happen -- it was unthinkable!" As if the people who knew it was likely to happen, and warned everybody it was likely to happen, didn't exist, or were just full of shit, or something.

I remember how many people thought the warnings were "over-hyped" after Irene, even though Irene came within a foot of overtopping levies and storm barriers all over the coast. So if Irene had been just a bit stronger, it would have been almost exactly like Sandy. Evidently people saw that and concluded "well, that proves they were just hyping it" instead of "wow, we got lucky this time, better prepare better next time."

Even more eye-gouging-stupid was when they interviewed some politician who said (I kid you not) "This has never happened, and you just can't plan for something that's never happened before." Behold, our fearless leaders.

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NBC had a special last night on Sandy... (Original Post) phantom power Oct 2012 OP
When I look at the hurricane history data here: PavePusher Oct 2012 #1
Maybe not, but..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #2
 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
1. When I look at the hurricane history data here:
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastall.shtml#tracks_us

I'm just not really seeing evidence that supports the hysteria of "more often, bigger, stronger" that I keep hearing in the MSM and here.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
2. Maybe not, but.....
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012

There is a possibility that it may indeed become the case. Now, whether or not this is the 'new normal' as some may believe, is really a question that can't be answered accurately today and will probably take some time to figure out. We're talking about a scale of at least a decade or two before we do know.

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