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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:26 PM May 2016

Thanks to NV, Wonkette has jumped off the fence and into the Hillary camp.


If you have time, click on the link and read the whole piece. It's worth the effort.

You Say You Want A Revolution?
Nice Grandpa Bernie Sanders Gonna BURN YOUR SH*T DOWWWWWN

Read more at http://wonkette.com/601971/nice-grandpa-bernie-sanders-gonna-burn-your-sht-dowwwwwn#xfwtyaL8CO1LbihQ.99

If you were waiting for Bernie Sanders to release a statement on the clusterfuck that was the Nevada state Democratic convention, hooray! He has done so! If you were waiting for Bernie Sanders to release a statement telling his supporters “hey maybe don’t drown out and scream at Barbara Boxer that she’s a fucking bitch for having a different preference in the Democratic primary than you do,” you are going to have to wait a little bit longer.

No, Bernie Sanders is going down swinging, and doubling down, and other metaphors from baseball and/or gambling (or both if you are Pete Rose or Shoeless Joe Jackson). See, his supporters wouldn’t have had to fling chimpanzee shit all over Las Vegas’s Paris hotel if they hadn’t been robbed, by which we mean they lost.

Wonkette has been officially neutral in the Democratic primary, until now. (We know, angry commenters; Wonkette says it has been neutral but has been a reliable source of bought-and-paid-for neoliberal corporate piece of shit one-percenter shilling for a mass murderer who will be arrested for “emails” any day now. Fair enough!)

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No, VERY ANGRY FOLK making your videos, the rules were not “changed” and did not require a two-thirds vote. They required a majority. Hillary Clinton had a narrow majority of supporters attending because almost 500 Bernie Sanders delegates didn’t show up. Even if the olds and gyno-Americans in the room weren’t as loud as the young men in their 20s and 30s, and even if they didn’t take an hour to do a head count to verify the voice vote, nothing was stolen here.

* The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.

According to the Nevada Democrats, after the Dems attempted to contact the missing delegates to resolve the problems with their registrations (which were either “not Democrat” or were missing addresses, etc., to make sure they were actually Nevada residents) those 58 people literally never showed up to the convention. Why would I believe the Nevada Democrats over Bernie Sanders? Because I have seen the rest of the disinformation in Bernie Sanders’s statement, and he has now lost his reputation with me of being an honest broker.

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Thanks to NV, Wonkette has jumped off the fence and into the Hillary camp. (Original Post) pnwmom May 2016 OP
KNR Thank you! Lucinda May 2016 #1
When you've lost WONKETTE, you've LOST. nt MADem May 2016 #2
Totally! workinclasszero May 2016 #3
Could be. riversedge May 2016 #27
Love me some Wonkette!! SunSeeker May 2016 #4
Read the Rude Pundits column from yesterday MFM008 May 2016 #5
Wow--brutal truth!!! Another one rides the (Hillary) bus! MADem May 2016 #8
Thanks for the link, MADem. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #16
NV is going to be the first gong of the death knell, I think--people are repulsed. MADem May 2016 #17
Yes! I have already read that -- and posted it elsewhere. It's an important piece. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #18
"Nihilistic shitbirds" Cary May 2016 #6
They are already calling her b***h in GDP taught_me_patience May 2016 #7
that post shocked me tbh obamanut2012 May 2016 #11
Poor Losers.. Cha May 2016 #20
Yeah, big tough online talk.. poor burnie lost and they can't handle. awwwww. Cha May 2016 #21
Re 'gyno-Americans' caquillo May 2016 #9
yes obamanut2012 May 2016 #12
Wait...they actually use that? TwilightZone May 2016 #24
Yes! obamanut2012 May 2016 #25
Sigh TwilightZone May 2016 #33
They've painted themselves into a nasty little corner. Cha May 2016 #22
Wonkette sure let it rip! sheshe2 May 2016 #10
Enjoyed the read! Her Sister May 2016 #13
I am sure Sanders lost many regular Dems this week. Especially women. Walk away May 2016 #14
I mentioned is on GDP, but those videos are a wonderful tool while canvassing anotherproletariat May 2016 #15
Wow, what a takedown! NastyRiffraff May 2016 #19
I know she was totally neutral.. Gawd.. with "the finger" again.. will it ever go away!? Cha May 2016 #23
Rebecca and her husband were very strong Sanders supporters. PeaceNikki May 2016 #26
Wow.. thanks for that, PN. I had just read on her site where she'd Cha May 2016 #29
I look forward to this week's "Deleted comments of the week" PeaceNikki May 2016 #30
Yeah, just to prove it didn't happen in Nevada. Cha May 2016 #32
the gloves are off and we see sanders and his supporters for what they are and what they intend beachbum bob May 2016 #28
When the curtain is ripped down, the truth cannot be ignored. liberal N proud May 2016 #31

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
5. Read the Rude Pundits column from yesterday
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

he was a supporter and hes not happy with Sanders either.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. Wow--brutal truth!!! Another one rides the (Hillary) bus!
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016
In response to death threats against the Nevada Democratic Party Chair Roberta Lange after she was doxed following the upheaval at the state party's convention in Las Vegas, Bernie Sanders issued one of the stupidest fucking press releases the Rude Pundit has seen in a long damn time. See, the Sanders delegation appears to have been trying to shut the process down over what they saw as unfairness in the application of rules and in the way the convention's outcome was decided. Referring to the death threats (including calling Lange the usual barrage of sexist terms), Sanders said, "Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked." That bullet hole found in a window at a Sanders campaign headquarters in Vegas is scary shit, indeed, especially because it was found on a day that Sanders was visiting that office in January. The police are still investigating.

But what Sanders is doing there is completely fucking irresponsible. By discussing violence against his campaign in the same breath as the death threats that came out of the convention, he is implying that Hillary Clinton's campaign or the Democratic Party was responsible for the "shots...fired" and the "apartment...ransacked." Is that a stretch? If it is, then why the fuck bring it up? To say, "Oh, you want violence? Here's some fuckin' violence"? Bullshit. There is an implied accusation, whether intentional or not. Chances are that this is some ham-fisted way of making a point.

And, hey, Bernie supporters, don't fucking respond to this with "Oh, the rules are too complicated" or "They shut down the process" or "Shillary is Killary" or whatever the fuck you want to respond with. Honestly, the uprising at the convention itself is the kind of shit we expect when passions run deep. The Sanders campaign conspiracy theorists will have fuel for weeks now, even though most of their complaints boil down to "rules suck, man." Tim Robbins has probably worn out his thumbs tweeting about it.


....And while the Rude Pundit has ignored much of the fuckery done by those followers to show how passionately they support Bernie, Sanders himself, through this response, may just have lost him this voter.

- See more at: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/05/in-brief-no-bernie-sanders-thats-bad.html#sthash.N0KVFzxe.dpuf

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. NV is going to be the first gong of the death knell, I think--people are repulsed.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

This is a very good read:

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/


Allegations of fraud and misconduct at Nevada Democratic convention unfounded

Cha

(297,221 posts)
21. Yeah, big tough online talk.. poor burnie lost and they can't handle. awwwww.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

So glad he lost.. so deserving.

caquillo

(521 posts)
9. Re 'gyno-Americans'
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

I've seen this a lot lately. Is this the BernieBros new misogynistic slur for women?

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
14. I am sure Sanders lost many regular Dems this week. Especially women.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

That insufferable speech was a stupid mistake!

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
15. I mentioned is on GDP, but those videos are a wonderful tool while canvassing
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

I was out canvassing for Hillary for 2 hours this morning, and showed the video of the NV uprising several times. It clearly made a big impact, particularly when combined with the information that Sanders has no realistic path to the nomination, and that all of this is just working to divide the party.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. Wow, what a takedown!
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

I like this:

But if your “revolution” includes disinformation, aimed to rile up your supporters, that would make Pravda and Ronald Reagan blush, you can make like your healthcare, and keep it!

(Also, if you consider Barbara Boxer, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Dolores Huerta, Planned Parenthood, Emily’s List, Barney Frank, Harry Reid and John Lewis to be Enemies of your State, you probably need to sit down with a mug of Ovaltine and give your animal farm and Four Legs Bad Two Legs Better a super double plus good unthink.)


The whole thing is well worth a read. Thanks, pnwmom!

Cha

(297,221 posts)
23. I know she was totally neutral.. Gawd.. with "the finger" again.. will it ever go away!?
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

I love that Wonkette is laying this all out.. I have to get now.. but will come back and give my comment on her expose.. laters!

Mahalo pmwmom~

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
26. Rebecca and her husband were very strong Sanders supporters.
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:04 AM
May 2016

They've tried to keep the site neutral, but they campaigned for Sanders, created and sold Sanders t shirts and attended rallies, quite recently.

Losing them is quite a feat.

Cha

(297,221 posts)
29. Wow.. thanks for that, PN. I had just read on her site where she'd
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

stated that she was.. so that would mean just not letting her readers in on it. Which I can see.. It says a lot about her integrity that she lost sanders over this..

According to the Nevada Democrats, after the Dems attempted to contact the missing delegates to resolve the problems with their registrations (which were either “not Democrat” or were missing addresses, etc., to make sure they were actually Nevada residents) those 58 people literally never showed up to the convention. Why would I believe the Nevada Democrats over Bernie Sanders? Because I have seen the rest of the disinformation in Bernie Sanders’s statement, and he has now lost his reputation with me of being an honest broker.

Finally!

I don't know about this, though..

I am fucking sorry to endorse Hillary Clinton, and I mean it. The Democratic primary was a good, hard, fair race in which both candidates showed the nutballs at the Trump rallies how to run a clean campaign. I was proud of all of us. While some — including the president — were calling for supporters to unite behind Hillary, and for Bernie to drop out, I thought such calls were misguided. Hell, when does the 10 percent of the country that lives in California ever get to vote! More democracy is more gooderer!

I never read that President Obama called for Bernie to drop out.. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.. I just never saw that.

Anyway.. now she's on to this..

But the Sanders campaign is now relying on Alex Jones-style conspiracies — if a Republican county clerk in Arizona shuts down a whole bunch of primary precincts because Hillary Clinton told her to, then Hillary Clinton is probably really good at getting shit done! — and flat out fucking lies to get its way. It hasn’t had any kind of intellectual consistency for months now as first it excoriated superdelegates as undemocratic even as they mirrored the popular vote, and then called for superdelegates to overthrow the will of the people by going for the candidate who has received fewer votes. (As one example, and they are legion.)

"We’ll take our check now, thanks, Mr. Brock."

"Losing them is quite a feat." I see what you mean!

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
30. I look forward to this week's "Deleted comments of the week"
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

I am sure she is getting a barrage of death threats from BernieBros.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
28. the gloves are off and we see sanders and his supporters for what they are and what they intend
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:08 AM
May 2016

and its all bad for the future of america


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