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T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 08:51 AM Feb 2012

Top Totty beer banned from House of Commons bar

I have to say that I've seen far far worse smutty pumpclips then this one. Great publicity for Slaters brewery though. Brewdog will be very jealous.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9056914/Top-Totty-beer-banned-from-House-of-Commons-bar-in-case-if-offends-women.html

Shadow equalities minister Kate Green was left ''disturbed'' after seeing the 4 per cent ale's advertising in the popular parliamentary watering hole and demanded bar staff remove it from sale.

A barman told the Press Association: ''I can confirm it was withdrawn from sale at 1.30pm.''

The bitter backlash developed after Ms Green told the Commons: ''I was disturbed last night to learn that the guest beer in the Strangers' Bar is called Top Totty and there is a picture of a nearly naked woman on the tap.''
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Top Totty beer banned from House of Commons bar (Original Post) T_i_B Feb 2012 OP
Sheesh..she looks like my 8th grade teacher Owlet Feb 2012 #1
Is Labour the party of uptight prudes on the UK? baldguy Feb 2012 #2
On BBC Radio 2 this morning dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #3
I was worried for a moment that they were referring to my twit of an MP! LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #6
What would she have made of this? oldironside Feb 2012 #4
Like I said...... T_i_B Feb 2012 #5
If you search funny beer names dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #7
Bloody stupid.... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #8
Fair comment I think Anarcho-Socialist Feb 2012 #9
I have actually come across the term 'Tory Totty' used of male as well as female politicians LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #10
House of Commons culture has nothing whatsoever to do with this T_i_B Feb 2012 #11

Owlet

(1,248 posts)
1. Sheesh..she looks like my 8th grade teacher
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 09:10 AM
Feb 2012

..Miss Crowder. This is Ms. Green.



I was terrified of that woman. She hated boys, especially gangly ones like me. Ah, well..that was long ago. C'mon, Kate - have a Top Totty with me and lighten up

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. On BBC Radio 2 this morning
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 09:40 AM
Feb 2012

they referred to it as Top Totty Blond and I was trying to figure which MP they meant : clearly not Ms Green.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
6. I was worried for a moment that they were referring to my twit of an MP!
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 04:53 PM
Feb 2012

Nicola Blackwood, or as I call her, Nicola Blockhead. Some people do call her a 'Tory Totty'.

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
5. Like I said......
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 02:51 PM
Feb 2012

...there are far worse pumpclips out there then Slater's Top Totty, and the worst ones are often the smutty ones.

Here's a blog which records some of the worst offenders, run by a man with the same (lack of) humour as Kate Green

http://pumpclipparade.blogspot.com/

And also, I shold point out that my local pub has decided to stock "Top Totty" as a result of this controversy. Slaters Brewery will most likely get increased sales out of this.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. If you search funny beer names
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 05:30 PM
Feb 2012

you'll some hilarious ones.

Won't just be Slaters : the others will join into I'm guessing.

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)
9. Fair comment I think
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:53 PM
Feb 2012

Whether or not she's a "killjoy" is rather subjective.

"Totty" as a term has its own history when it comes to female MPs. Many Parliamentarians have been dismissed by others and condescendingly branded as "totty" just because they happened to be female.

The culture at Westminster is very masculine and Ms Green may see this as an example of its traditional sexism.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
10. I have actually come across the term 'Tory Totty' used of male as well as female politicians
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:58 PM
Feb 2012

Though probably more commonly of females.

I see your point, but I think that having a beer called 'Top Totty' is a symptom, not a cause, of the rather trivial, laddish, sometimes just childish - and, from what I've heard, hard-drinking - culture that is common to the House of Commons. I'm much more bothered about the way Cameron can't reply to ANYTHING at PMQ with anything of substance, and without petty sneering at someone else, usually but not always Ed Miliband. Of course all party leaders do it and always have; but Cameron takes it to an unusually low level. I mean - all the problems with the NHS bill, and all Davy is concerned about is whether Miliband or Lansley has better career prospects.

(Yes I do a lot of sneering about Davy et al, I suppose; but apart from other considerations, I'm not Prime Minister!)

At any rate, the Lansley Bill seems to be running into more trouble than ever. If it goes down, that really will be the Dog's Bollocks!

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
11. House of Commons culture has nothing whatsoever to do with this
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:12 AM
Feb 2012

Last edited Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:59 AM - Edit history (1)

It stems more from general pub culture (real ale pubs inparticular have been very "male" places for many years and that's only recently started to change). If Ms Green had complained about such a pumpclip in a typical pub then there is a good chance that she would simply be told to fuck off by the landlord.

It also stems from the need to name a blonde beer. All too often a brewer will resort the ancient blonde stereotypes when thinking up a name for a blonde ale.

And also, when you consider that the House of Commons has a guest ales policy that goes beyond the likes of Marston's Pedigree and Greedy King "IPA" it's inevitable that at some point a naff pumpclip will arrive on their bar.

There's enough rubbish pumpclips out there, even if the trend of late has been for very plain pumpclips and labels . The fact that this was on the bar as a result of MP's showcasing breweries from their own cnstituencies only increases that liklihood. Be glad that they didn't have anything from Northumberland or Wyre Piddle breweries on the bar.

You might ask why the House of Commons needs it's own bar in the first place as other places of work certainly don't but that's a fight for another day really.

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