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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
2. Harper's party are the Conservatives. Half the country thinks they were behind
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:48 AM
Mar 2012

to voter suppression calls (robocall scandal where Liberal people were called by false flag Liberals and told to go to the wrong polling place election night or calls where the false flag Liberals made interrupting/rude calls). Yesterday the robocall company said they had an IP address of the caller who placed the robocall order and whose disposable phone was registered under Pierre Poutine (a slur against french canadians). We should know more this week. Conservatives are claiming to be completely innocent on this. I don't think the conservatives up in the hierarchy would break election law. But they have turned elections into WAR and that may have led to some little conservative turd placing such an order. We will have to wait and see.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Wait, the Liberals called or? The Conservatives? Or is the Liberal Party conservative?
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:01 AM
Mar 2012

I thought the Liberals were the good guys. Do you have a Green Party, a Liberal Party and a Conservative Party?

I've been told that the Conservative Party in England is more liberal than the Democratic Party in the USA. Does Canada have a Labor Party like the UK?

Sorry for my complete ignorance on this but we hear NOTHING about Canada except the names of the best known politicians.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
4. It was just in the news tonight that Liberals made issue oriented robocalls to the NDP
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:23 AM
Mar 2012

(New Democratic Party - our Labour Party) and the Greens (very new party). Yes the left in Canada is split between the Liberals (centrist), the NDP (union/left), the Greens (environment, left) and the Bloc Quebecois in Quebec (separitist party that is also left of centre). The Conservatives are the only party on the right. And because the vote in the centre and the left was split 4 ways the conservatives won and form the government. And yes and no the conservatives are to the right and left of the Democrats in the USA. They are for universal health care (we hope). They did a big stimulus plan when we were close to a recession. They are for cutting taxes and privatizing whatever they can. I know of people in the NDP who helped Obama in 2008. I'm sure some Liberals helped get out the vote on election day in the USA. Political consultants like Carville have worked with the Liberals. The Republicans and the Conservatives help each other too. So though the Conservatives are the the left of the Republicans on many issues, in their dreams they may want to be just like the GOP. And that is scarry. Cause our health care works and is cheaper than yours in the USA. Our crime and our schools are better because our tax base has not been destroyed. The Conservatives are just about to put forward their first major budget after the election where they won a majority. We will see their true colours. And I am scared.

Because the Conservatives have been changing policy all the time and will not say why (because it would be unpalitable to the canadian electorate no doubt), because they are so secretive and because they are tied to the gop, we think they are creepy. So when this robocall scandal happened (the robocall scandal that came out two weeks ago where Liberals & NDP people were called and told to go to another polling centre, that turned out to be a shopping mall not an voting venue) people assumed it was the Conservatives. Because politics is all war to them and they used RackNine, the robocall firm that these particular calls came from. RackNine is in the process of trying to trace who placed the order.

Separately tonight it was revealed that the Liberals used robocalls in the same Guelph riding, but targetted the NDP and the Greens and made issue oriented calls. Which is not the same thing.

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