Electrion fraud underway in Wisconsin -- check your registrations ASAP!

[magical thyme]

Last edited Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:24 AM - Edit history (1)

Dem poster from another board just reported that his girlfriend, who has long-term Dem registration and been a regular voter, was missing from registration when she tried to vote early. There was simply no record of her!

She was able to re-register and vote, but the lines were long. So if you are updating your registration or early voting, make sure you allow sufficient time, jic!

[Half-Century Man]

1. Cross post to check registration

http://www.democraticunderground.com/108418913

[bkkyosemite]

2. I believe they are hacking all states systems!

[magical thyme]

3. definitely closed primary states with large numbers of delegates.

I've also seen frightening (but unverifiable) anecdotal reports from caucuses.

[bkkyosemite]

6. What have you see that is frightening?

[magical thyme]

7. that a caucus leader & Hill supporter who had brought cookies to caucus

slipped out the caucus room door with an unsealed envelope full of Sander's ballots. A Sanders person saw her leave and followed her while she "fast-walked" down the hall and through some room with people (I forget -- a cafeteria or something) and asked them the fastest way to the parking lot.

He caught up with her, says she was visibly shaking while she explained that she was just going to her car to get more cookies. So he got the envelope full of Sanders ballots back and returned them.

[metroins]

27. Lol.

[kracer20]

29. Spreading lies I see...

They were cupcakes if I recall correctly.

[global1]

4. Who Is "They"?.....

I believe Thom Hartmann is questioning the messing around that's been going on in the States. Are there any updates on what he is finding out about this?

[bkkyosemite]

5. I'm not sure but whoever it is they want to win very badly. Don't know what Tom is saying.

[magical thyme]

8. NGP VAN -- the same vendor with the DNC database with firewalls that drop also

runs the registration system.

So their system is "randomly" swapping and changing registrations in the database used for voting.

And their other system shows them who supports who.

[global1]

11. Is Anybody Looking Into This Or Is This Classifed Under Dirty Tricks?.....nt

[magical thyme]

12. it's classified under CT

because nobody anywhere ever cheated at anything to win. Especially when winning makes you the most powerful person in the world and gives you the keys to, well, everything.

And when you're inevitable, you don't have to cheat because you are, well, inevitable.

[4ricksren]

13. How can Bernie's team stop this registration and database hacking?

I can't imagine how many of those large Southern margins were "digitally-sculpted" since Bernie had little ground-support and name recognition at the time.

[Thor_MN]

14. How in hell could any system show who supports who?

That's

[magical thyme]

19. Really? The DNC does not have a database of voters that the various campaigns lease access to

for phone banking and canvassing...and are able to create voter files with notes showing likelihood and intensity of support? So that they know who may be open to changing their mind, etc?

You know, like a database that Sanders' campaign was accused of deliberately hacking into Clinton's database and stealing Clinton's notes?

Because I seem to remember a really big kerfluffle last year about some firewall coming down repeatedly, and a young Sanders' worker collecting Clinton voter data into a file, and getting fired for it.

[Thor_MN]

22. Yes, really. Unless a person has placed themself on record supporting a candidate,

No one would know who they are going to, in the future, vote for. Anyone who is in a database of likely voters for a candidate has placed themselves in such a database, and can only blame themselves if such information was used for any purpose.

I don't place much stock in wild conspiracy theories.

[magical thyme]

23. well there are 2 such databases. One's the database that Sanders' campaign was accused of hacking

in order to steal info from Clinton's files. And it is an NPG VAN database.

And the other happens to also be an NPG VAN database. That's the one that appears to have been compromised in the AZ primary, which the SOS now admits caused numerous registered voters to be purged or registrations flipped, and caused election fraud.

[Thor_MN]

25. Care to explain what, exactly, is in the database?

If the database even has info on likely supporters, my point still holds true. One doesn't get their information in that databse without providing it oneself.

[jwirr]

30. If this can be proved (not who but what) then this is an

emergency and should be treated as such. Governors should open the primaries up so everyone can vote. No closed primaries.

[mysuzuki2]

9. Wisconsin has open primaries.

You do not need to declare a party affiliation , and both parties are on the same ballot. And we have same day registration. So, it's not as bad as it might be. It might be a good idea, though, to bring ID and proof of address with you when you go to the polls in case your registration has been dropped.

[magical thyme]

10. good thinking! nt

[Geuricol]

15. This sounds fishy....

First of all, you don't register as a republican or democrat in Wisconsin. There is currently in-person absentee voting taking place. If this person hadn't voted for a long time, they might have been taken off the registration list but that would require written notice. Regardless, she could re-register. We have an open primary and registration is not done by either party. If there was a mistake, it is most likely a clerical mistake. I have not heard of any long lines anywhere in Wisconsin for the early absentee voting.

I checked my registration/voting record a couple of years ago and was surprised to find that it said I didn't vote in the 2008 Presidential election, even though I absolutely did. Most likely some type of error in bookkeeping.

Magical thyme, are you trying to imply that one of the campaigns is responsible?

[magical thyme]

24. According to the original posting, this person had been registered and voted since2014.

I'd be curious to see if this is also an NPG VAN system, as apparently other recent instances of voter purging have happened in their system.

She didn't say her registration was flipped from Dem to something. She said she had disappeared (ie was purged) from the system. Like what happened en masse in AZ.

[Scuba]

16. You posted this yesterday and were corrected, now you're posting again ...

A more cynical person might suspect that the "long lines" part of your erroneous post was designed to discourage voting. Hate to see that happen.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280160774

[magical thyme]

17. if you look at the date/time stamp you'll see that I posted within minutes of the other.

I'm not trying to discourage voting.

Consider the possibility (in fact, the reality of my intent) that I mentioned long lines so people could plan to allow enough time to get it done.

I'm a very strong Bernie supporter. I've donated more $$ and more time to getting him elected than any other candidate in my life. I'm over 60, so that's a fair number of elections.

[Scuba]

18. How can there be long lines a week before election day? Please delete that part of your posts.

[magical thyme]

20. early voting.

No.

[Dont call me Shirley]

21. Get there early.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

26. Is this another thread alleging election fraud by the Democratic Party?

[magical thyme]

28. No. This is a thread suggesting that WI voters planning to vote check their registrations

because on another board I frequent a member reported he and his girlfriend went to vote early and his girlfriend's registration had disappeared. She was able to re-registers, and yes, WI has same-day registration, but not everybody will be carrying a photo ID and proof of residency when they go to vote if they assume they're already registered.

There have been numerous reports of similar situations in a couple upcoming states and we all saw what happened in AZ. Where the SOS now says there was some sort of election fraud.