Single Payer Health Systems

SHRED

(28,136 posts) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:26 PM Dec 2011

Corporate health insurance...

...and big pharma are much to entwined into the American healthcare and economic system for anything to change anytime soon.
Stock portfolios, profit margins, investments, ad agencies, etc...

I think we are screwed for years to come.
Sorry for the negativity but in order for health care in the United States to be "affordable" then the above players need to take a hit and I in no way see that happening...not even with the alleged "Affordable Health Care Act".

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Corporate health insurance... (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2011 OP

I both agree and disagree... Merlot Dec 2011 #1

Well put SHRED Dec 2011 #2

Reform could well lead to universal care, but it may take a while Kennah Jan 2012 #3

Merlot

(9,696 posts)

1. I both agree and disagree...

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 08:47 PM

Dec 2011

Yes, big pharma is entwined in the American healthcare system in ways that make it near impossible to get rid of. With the stock portfolios, profit margins, investments, executive payouts, purchased congress critters, etc, it's no wonder single payer was taken "off the table." The lobbyists would not stand for it.

So what AHCA has become is a regulator of health insurance instead of health care for all. But I do see some positive things that are coming out of AHCA. Also, the real benefit is allowing the states to set up their own networks by opting out. That's actually how we will get single care - one state at a time. It was voted on in CA and vetoed by arnie. It's going to come up again. Other states also have plans to bring it up for vote.

Like MJ legalization, it will happen at the state levels first.

So yes, we may be screwed for years to come, but we were before the AHCA as well. We're screwed because we live in a country that allows for-profit health care which no other industrialized country allows.

SHRED

(28,136 posts)

2. Well put

Reply to Merlot (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:02 PM

Dec 2011

Kennah

(14,261 posts)

3. Reform could well lead to universal care, but it may take a while

Reply to SHRED (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:38 AM

Jan 2012

It will probably start in the states, spread, and eventually become universal care.

Vermont, Oregon, Wisconsin, and California are some potential early adopters.

Canada took almost 16 years--from 1946 to 1962.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada#The_beginning_of_coverage

I'm 44, and I'm hoping I live to see it and benefit from it--and not just a death benefit.

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