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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:30 PM

The Forbes "Death Spiral" States

Courtesy of snopes.com

There's a new email going around that claims that eleven states now have more people on "welfare" (that vague notion of welfare which pervades the wingers' meager brains, anyway) than working. The email goes on to state that all eleven are "straight Democratic states" which surprises me because three of the states (SC, AL, MS) are the blood-reddest of them all.

Rated false, of course.

Oswego "Death Spiral Notebook" Atheist

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OswegoAtheist Jan 2013 OP
Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #1
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Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #4
progree Jan 2013 #2
OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #5
antigop19667 Jan 2013 #7
toddmiller Jan 2013 #6

Response to OswegoAtheist (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:38 PM

1. Isn't it possible to be working

and still get some welfare? If that is the case, they cannot judge this just by numbers on welfare.

And it makes me laugh that all of these states, including SC, AL, and MS, are "straight Democratic states".

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:02 PM

3. It is certainly possible to be working and

get food stamps. To be working and your health insurance is Medicaid.

After this coming August I'll be working and on Medicare for my health coverage. I hope to put off collecting SS for a couple more years.

And the fact that someone can be working and still get food stamps and Medicaid shows both how badly paid many jobs are, and the lack of regular health care coverage at a job.

There are probably other things called "welfare" that a working person can qualify for.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:23 PM

4. You bring up a good point....

Exactly what is meant by "welfare". I have a feeling that so many people who talk about "welfare" have no idea what they are discussing. Is it just a government check, or is it also the benefits of food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, Section 8 housing, etc.? I am guilty of using the word "welfare" as just meaning a check from the government when you are not working, but I know better if I think about it.

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Response to OswegoAtheist (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:54 AM

2. Kentucky - 4 of the last presidential elections voted RepubliCON, and 9 of the last 12

http://www.270towin.com/states/Kentucky

In 2012, they voted for Romney by a 22.7% margin over Obama.

Of the 3 elections (in the past 12) where they voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, it was twice for Clinton (from Arkansas) and once for Carter (from Georgia) (southerners running against non-southerners). I guess that makes them a "straight Democratic state".

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Response to OswegoAtheist (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:51 PM

5. This is a typical example of the "vague notion of welfare which pervades the wingers' meager brains"



I keep wondering why wingnuts assume that hard-working Americans don't utilize services such as WIC, SNAP, or Section 8 rental assistance. I can only assume they've never tried to support a family on minimum wage.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 04:50 AM

7. exactly!

 

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Response to OswegoAtheist (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:18 PM

6. Forbes need to do a follow-up article on intellectual death spiral states.

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