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47of74

(18,470 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 12:12 AM Aug 2016

Robotic Rectums Can Train Doctors to Better Probe Down There

Science Stack

A new device could change rectal exams for the better. Designed at Imperial College London, a robotic rectum creates a more true-to-life training experience for young doctors and nurses, allowing more precise training, Science Alert reports.

Medical schools already use model butts to teach students rectal exam protocol, but this one provides a more accurate learning environment. The silicon rectum can be altered to mimic normal variations in anatomy as well as the feeling of a cancerous gland. Hooked up to a computer, the robotic butt visualizes what is happening within the rectum in a 3D model as the trainee is going through the exam.

"We have already asked a number of doctors and nurses—including prostate specialists and cancer surgeons—to trial the technology," the robotic rectum’s creator, Alejandro Granados, said in a press release. "They commented on the great advantage of being able to alter the anatomy. The size and shape of the rectum and prostate can vary greatly from person to person, and this technology enables medics to practice their skills in many different virtual patients."

They also noted that because these examinations are performed solely by feel, experiencing a realistic sensation is crucial, Granados said. To that end, in order to study the best trajectory and pressure a doctor should apply during an exam, Granados and his team are also going to deploy small fingertip pressure sensors that doctors can wear while examining patients, which will collect data about how experienced practitioners do their work.
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Robotic Rectums Can Train Doctors to Better Probe Down There (Original Post) 47of74 Aug 2016 OP
I cannot respond to this. Adsos Letter Aug 2016 #1
I hear you, C3P0 pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Adsos Letter Aug 2016 #6
"France would hang me." Adsos Letter Aug 2016 #7
Fear not, Richelieu pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #8
"Would you say there are many of them?" Adsos Letter Aug 2016 #10
I know it is a hackneyed phrase, but if we can put a man on the moon, why can't MADem Aug 2016 #3
I didn't practice on robots. I practiced on real human beings. Aristus Aug 2016 #4
How much is the honorarium? rug Aug 2016 #9
I don't know. I didn't ask my volunteer. Aristus Aug 2016 #11
Not if the patient asked you. rug Aug 2016 #12
While a broke grad student in my nursing... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #23
I clenched True Dough Aug 2016 #5
Relax, people! It's not robots going up our asses. pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #13
You would think somebody would have invented an electrical device to stick up your ass by now. rug Aug 2016 #14
That's been done, but I don't even want to think about it. pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #15
Ordering up an ass-kicking for pinboy3niner by Skittles! madinmaryland Aug 2016 #21
And here I thought Trump was the only perfect asshole Major Nikon Aug 2016 #16
OK - you are... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #24
Only problem is.... Big_K Aug 2016 #17
As long as it's a variety of batteries. 47of74 Aug 2016 #18
That sounds like *>>pththTTHHPPTthshshplbbb<<* BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #28
Hmmm...I suspect the phrase "robotic rectums" has a long and happy future ahead of it... First Speaker Aug 2016 #19
They're already set to open next week at the Troubador pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #20
I knew someone would beat me to it! hibbing Aug 2016 #26
It was just a matter of time before my job was taken over by a robot. Kaleva Aug 2016 #22
Nice work BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #29
The next robot should have the perfect bedside manner while conducting exams lunatica Aug 2016 #25
Computers are now assholes Blue Owl Aug 2016 #27
I'm a little surprised here jmowreader Aug 2016 #30

Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #2)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. I know it is a hackneyed phrase, but if we can put a man on the moon, why can't
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 12:31 AM
Aug 2016

we come up with a better way to conduct these exams without the patient having to play hand puppet to often clumsy doctors?

Aristus

(66,527 posts)
4. I didn't practice on robots. I practiced on real human beings.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 12:52 AM
Aug 2016

It was weird. For a cash honorarium, volunteers came to the school to get their prostates examined by nervous students. We each got two practice exams, and the rest we would do in the field, during our clinical rotations.

The vaginal exams were even weirder. The volunteers were nurses, for the most part. In a jarring and vulnerable setting, we had to learn how to do pelvic and bimanual exams. For my turn, the volunteer (and nurse) had to talk me through the whole thing. She was patient and instructive, like she had been doing it all her life, but it was a bizarre experience for me.

Now I do both in clinic all the time. I do probably 3-4 pelvic exams a week, and 1 or 2 prostate exams. I still occasionally have patients ask me: "How can you do this all day?" But it has long since become second nature to me.

Aristus

(66,527 posts)
11. I don't know. I didn't ask my volunteer.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:03 PM
Aug 2016

It would have seemed rude to insert a finger in his rectum, and then ask: "How much are you getting for this?"

3catwoman3

(24,122 posts)
23. While a broke grad student in my nursing...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:04 PM
Aug 2016

...master's program, I was once a "model" patient for students in the women's health practitioner program who needed to learn pelvic exams.

At the risk of TMI, I have a backwards tilted uterus, a normal variation. This does make it hard to find that particular organ, and it was passingly amusing to watch their facial grimaces as they struggle to locate it. I had to critique them as part of their learning, and I would gently suggest that they learn to keep the proverbial straight face, and, of course, tell them why they had experienced such difficulty while examining me.

While I was an undergrad, I remember hearing a male med student talk about how embarrassed he had been, while doing his first breast exam, when his patient reached over with a tissue and mopped his forehead because he was dripping sweat on her.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. Relax, people! It's not robots going up our asses.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:10 PM
Aug 2016

It's just doctors trained by robots going up our asses. Whew! That makes me feel so much better about somebody going up my ass.

But seriously, who can complain about doctors doing this to us being well-trained?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. You would think somebody would have invented an electrical device to stick up your ass by now.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

Kaleva

(36,403 posts)
22. It was just a matter of time before my job was taken over by a robot.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:45 PM
Aug 2016

I can't complain though. 40 years in this interesting career is a good run and it's time for my ass to to put to pasture.

jmowreader

(50,590 posts)
30. I'm a little surprised here
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 11:20 PM
Aug 2016

The paucity of Republican jokes on this thread shows remarkable restraint.

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