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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:27 AM Oct 2015

The Walking Dead 6.3 "Thank You" (spoiler alert)

Rick and his group get caught up in a dangerous little town on the road back to Alexandria. Meanwhile, Daryl, Sasha and Abraham continue to lead away the remaining walkers away from the safe-zone.

Next week, for episode 4, we get a special 90 minute Morgan flashback episode to find out how & why he became the jedi master that he is currently.



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The Walking Dead 6.3 "Thank You" (spoiler alert) (Original Post) NewJeffCT Oct 2015 OP
Major spoilers NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #1
Who, besides Carol has been with us since Season 1? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #2
From season 1 NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #5
Did any of them wear a red shirt in the beginning? pinboy3niner Oct 2015 #7
I don't remember clothing from that far back NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #8
Yep. I think Glenn's days are numbered. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #9
Kirkman said a few weeks ago NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #11
I love her bluntness. RiffRandell Oct 2015 #152
Well, poo. I was expecting it to happen this season, still...poo. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #10
Oh wow, I am hoping it is Carl, LOL. I know that is mean, but..... bettyellen Oct 2015 #17
They're twisting themselves into knots NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #18
For shame! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #22
you know who else is still here from Season 1.... charlie and algernon Oct 2015 #21
How did Rick cut himself in that trailer? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #3
I'm not sure NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #4
Kirkman said contact with walker blood isn't enough to cause an infection that leads to death. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #12
wow NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #13
I'm just talking out of my melodious whistle blower. :) Solly Mack Oct 2015 #14
LOL< Soll! bettyellen Oct 2015 #16
It's what I used to say when babies had gas. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #19
Remember - they *all* are already infected. They will all turn when they die. Lex Oct 2015 #149
Yes, I know. I account for that. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #151
I think he might have been bitten and was racing back RiffRandell Oct 2015 #154
Some articles from this past week NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #6
a few more articles NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #15
should be interesting NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #20
Soon. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #23
Now, I hear we may have to wait till episode 7 NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #24
They're going to make us sweat it out, I guess. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #25
Time! Yes! Happy Dance! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #26
Glenn and Rick are together now. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #27
Back to the horn NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #28
Yep. Now it has stopped. So, clean up & secure in Alexandria and walker in the woods with Rick, etc. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #29
Nicholas panicking NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #30
He seemed to have snapped out of it though. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #32
yes NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #35
True. lol Solly Mack Oct 2015 #37
Rick is now separated from the rest on an errand. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #31
and, one of the competent guys NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #33
Yep. At my house we worried it would be the bald guy getting bit. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #34
Michonne is trying to get to know him before he has to die. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #36
Ut oh. Bad place! I know that's a bad place! Leave! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #38
Poor doggies and kitties! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #39
Glenn going off by himself NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #40
taking Nicholas with him now NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #42
Taking Nicholas. I'm getting my tissue ready. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #43
Well, F-word. Glenn is being the hero. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #41
Yes NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #45
"Good luck dumbass" Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #44
Yes NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #46
maybe Taterguy guy gets it. Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #47
Michonne and Heath having a heated discussion. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #48
that was an intense as a whisper can get NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #50
I want Heath around for a long while. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #55
Glenn giving a pep talk to Nicholas. (I think he might still be that guy, actually) Solly Mack Oct 2015 #49
See Rick run. Run, Rick, run. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #51
he looked pretty weak NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #52
Depends on how bad he was cut. I don't think it was that bad. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #54
Oh, dammit. Sad episode all the way around. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #53
and, it may still get sadder NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #56
I'm thinking it's going to be real sad before it is over. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #57
Well, at least she gave them a little more time. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #58
Flanking Walkers! Is that even fair? Can they do that? Solly Mack Oct 2015 #59
Someone help Michonne! Do it! NOW! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #60
Yuck. Poor Nicholas. :( Solly Mack Oct 2015 #61
Poor Betsy's husband. He was dead anyway, still... Solly Mack Oct 2015 #62
Oh, F'ing great - a panic attack now? Now? Solly Mack Oct 2015 #63
"Thank You" NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #65
I am outraged. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #67
I hoped he sacrifice himself, not take Glen down with him. Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #66
He was a coward to the end and took Glenn out with him. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #70
I'm going to watch that again NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #73
He fell on Glenn, knocking Glenn off balance. Glenn fell. They ripped Glenn apart like Dale. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #76
I got the impression that Glenn got stunned by the gun. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #109
I was yelling at the TV at the time, and closing my eyes, and I was wrong. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #115
I noticed the zombie extra because she looks just like one of the actors on Orange is the New Black. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #117
Omigod. It's Angie Rice. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #120
The one on the left is Taryn Manning. I adore her. Love her music. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #121
A heck of a lot of blood gushing out of that body. I would think with that much blood gushing out Autumn Oct 2015 #145
True. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #146
That F-ing coward! That POS! He got Glenn killed! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #64
:( Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #68
I am sad. Glen was such a great guy. redwitch Oct 2015 #69
That Was NOT OK! alphafemale Oct 2015 #71
Best episode yet DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #72
I hope those 3 make it back. (Michonne, Heath and shot guy) Solly Mack Oct 2015 #74
The 3 black characters NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #75
It is. We remarked on that here at the house. I'm glad. Maybe the show's creators Solly Mack Oct 2015 #77
Yes. Weird. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #112
You almost expect NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #127
Omigod. I didn't know that. How cool. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #130
Glenn's body will never be found. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #78
They'll find the watch Hershel gave him EL34x4 Oct 2015 #141
I don't know anymore. He could be. He could not be. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #144
I believe that as well NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #148
I can't see how they didn't get some part of his legs either. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #150
Well, poo! Get Rick out of there! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #79
Yes, he's not in a good position NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #81
the ghost of Dale's shitty winnibego lingers still. Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #80
yes NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #85
They wanted us to think of Dale. He was ripped apart too. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #86
hmmmmmm Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #88
If only he had Glenn to fix it for him NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #89
Boo hiss! Solly Mack Oct 2015 #90
Get the second battery. AngryAmish Oct 2015 #125
lol! True Solly Mack Oct 2015 #134
That was a tough episode. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #82
Yes, it was tough NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #87
Does Maggie have long to go without Glenn? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #110
I haz a sad. Liberal Veteran Oct 2015 #83
He got bravehearted zombie style. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #111
I can't even be sad over his death because I am so mad over how he died. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #84
zactly Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #91
Maybe he's not really dead. Maybe he does make it under the dumpster before the walkers get him. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #93
So, was that Nick's guts? Because I admit to closing my eyes and cursing. I was fit to be tied. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #92
seriously. alphafemale Oct 2015 #94
Glenn was NOT on the "in memorium" sequence NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #95
They're waiting for the end game when they show "some version of Glenn" later. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #97
Some version of Glenn? He's going to be a walker? Solly Mack Oct 2015 #96
We had flashbacks of Lori NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #99
Yeah. I didn't like Lori or the whole seeing Lori storyline. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #100
Goodbye, sweet prince. You were too good for this world..... Liberal Veteran Oct 2015 #98
I'm going to watch the repeat. I have to see the dumpster death scene again. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #101
I'll probably watch it tomorrow NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #102
Maybe you need a nap? :) Solly Mack Oct 2015 #103
thanks for participating NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #104
Still alive? Islandurp Oct 2015 #105
I hope that's how it plays out. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #106
That's what I'm thinking Iris Oct 2015 #136
Suicide mission. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #107
OK. Rewatching the dumpster death scene. That is Nick being torn apart. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #108
I hope you're right. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #114
I can't see how Glenn survives without a lot of help. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #116
Well, we already have seen the Sophia twist, and we already had the Bob farewell. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #118
Rumor is... pinstikfartherin Oct 2015 #119
I think she is. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #123
Who knows? I'm just going to wait for the big reveal. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #122
Oddly NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #126
I hope it's not that. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #128
But his death was part of the in memoriam on Talking Dead. Solly Mack Oct 2015 #135
Screw up on Glenn's scene, IMO. pinstikfartherin Oct 2015 #113
Remember last year NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #124
RIP Mr Glenn Rhee charlie and algernon Oct 2015 #129
I'm just guessing here NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #131
I hope you're right. Love Glen, and he deserved a better death! bettyellen Oct 2015 #132
No guarantee NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #133
I agree and that's why I think he's not dead yet. Iris Oct 2015 #137
How can anyone slide under a dumpster though? Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #138
Glenn is svelte! *crosses fingers* bettyellen Oct 2015 #139
lol Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #140
a lot of dumpsters have wheels NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #142
ah, I see Joe Shlabotnik Oct 2015 #143
Thanks for giving me hope Sugarcoated Oct 2015 #147
Picture from the internet NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #153
If we had the internet back when Kennedy was shot, we would have the identity of the assassin in the Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #155
From that picture Shankapotomus Oct 2015 #156
If you go to the slow mo replay NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #157

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. Major spoilers
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:11 AM
Oct 2015

Spoiling Dead Fans over on Facebook is usually pretty accurate - they're reporting that tonight, we see - swipe to the right [font color=white]the death of Nicholas, and also the death of a person that's been with TWD since season 1. That said, people are jumping through hoops over there to say that death is a dream, a hallucination, etc. Of course, they could leave us with a cliffhanger that won't be resolved until episode 5 if we get the flashback next week. [/font]

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
2. Who, besides Carol has been with us since Season 1?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

If we go on the theory that they give plush episodes to the Almost Departed, then the likely person is Carol. She's had great exposure, especially in that last episode. The others are Glen, Daryl, Rick and Carl.

This might be Glen's send off, though it breaks the "high exposure before the fall" theory.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. From season 1
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:42 AM
Oct 2015

we have Rick, Morgan, Carl, Glenn, Carol and Daryl. Though, Morgan was gone for 4 seasons. The others - Ed, Jim, Jacqui, Amy, Andrea, Lori, Shane, Dale, Sophia and the rest are gone.

The fans on Spoiling Dead are jumping through hoops to come up with explanations for it not to be true - including pictures of the person in question on the set later in the season. The people that run the page are saying it's a hallucination and that we might not find out till episode 5 - which would really suck.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Did any of them wear a red shirt in the beginning?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015

It would be funny if the WD writers used the Star Trek kiss of death.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. I don't remember clothing from that far back
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:08 PM
Oct 2015

but, I don't think surviving 6 seasons qualifies one as a red shirt

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
9. Yep. I think Glenn's days are numbered.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 12:44 PM
Oct 2015

I honestly have no idea. I've never read any of the comics (not that the show always follows them). Just a hunch though.

There would be too much fan outrage if Daryl or Carol were killed off. They're fan favorites, big time. Carl is probably the one fans would be happiest to see get killed off but I don't see the writers doing that to Rick's character.

Andrew Lincoln signed a 9-season contract. Clearly, he's going to be around a while.

A major character will die this season. Someone dies every season. Glenn seems like the logical guess. Probably happens during the mid-season finale.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. Kirkman said a few weeks ago
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:59 PM
Oct 2015

that Carol is actually the most indispensable character on the show. (and, her character is dead in the comics.)

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
152. I love her bluntness.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:13 PM
Oct 2015

Telling the kid on the steps "you're father is dead, get over it."

She minces no words.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
18. They're twisting themselves into knots
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:34 PM
Oct 2015

to come up with a reason to keep this person alive. Hallucinations, dreams, etc.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
22. For shame!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015

I wouldn't miss him either, but I think they want him around a while longer. We'll see Enid again, and I think Carl will too.

Still, someone needs to always stay behind and protect Judith. I am Team Judith to the core.

I want her growing up to be the shit-kicker she is destined to be.

It seems like Glenn's time - but that might have more to do with the comics than the show. Comic book readers accept Glenn's death as a real possibility, but the show likes to mind-fondle people.

Glenn is coming into his own, being a mentor and leader, so he has to go. LOL

It's a Ricktatorship world. Course, what if they kill off Rick? Just look for me in the corner, sucking my thumb if they do. If Judith dies, I'll be in the same corner but in the fetal position, pulling on my hair.

If Daryl bites it, I'll be the loud, soul piercing wailing sound everyone in the known universe hears.

But I exaggerate.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
21. you know who else is still here from Season 1....
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

Morgan.



It would fall in line with the special 90 minute flashback episode of him next week.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
3. How did Rick cut himself in that trailer?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

Was it by the knife? I know we've been through this before, but can you explain to me again how someone can get turned by getting bitten, or by getting stabbed by a piece of exposed zombie bones, but not by the exchange of blood?

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
12. Kirkman said contact with walker blood isn't enough to cause an infection that leads to death.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:24 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)

So, walker blood getting on you, even on and in scratches and cuts, won't do it.

Below is just me thinking out loud. Trying to build a bridge, so to speak, to how Kirkman could be thinking. I know I'm using the broadest sense of the science involved.

Probably (based on the thinking that) because infected blood knows infected blood, and everyone is already infected. So maybe the body doesn't detect a foreign matter when walker blood gets on you because it isn't foreign. Some "people" have the active infection/virus (walkers) and some with the dormant infection/virus (live humans).

A bite leads to an infection - not THE infection/virus, since everyone is already infected/virus with that - but a killer infection with no cure (so far).

Still, death from a bite depends on where you were bitten and if they can remove the now infected limb quick enough. If the limb/bite area can't be removed, you die from an infection and death triggers the infection/virus. I haven't decided which it is yet. Bacterial v. viral. I'm leaning toward viral. The walker infection, that is. Not the bite. That's bacterial, I think. Could be spores, but I don't think so. Just one that has no cure since, well - who's looking for one during the zombie apocalypse? Not the CDC.

Death triggers the dormant walker infection/virus. So I have to die, by some means, to become a walker.

Stabbing with bone is probably the cause of death. Reanimation a byproduct of the death that triggers the dormant walker infection/virus.

Let's imagine that walker bites produce a super staph infection, for the sake of labeling, some sort of super MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus). Something along those lines.

This is all just hypothetical. But we do know that aerobic bacteria is present during early decomposition. We know that the decreasing availability of oxygen produces anaerobic bacteria. We know that Staph is part of the aerobic stage of decomposition and Clostridia is present during anaerobic decomposition. What if a walker body is stuck in those 2 stages of decomposing? A happy, though deadly, median, so to speak. So much so the walker body now produces an super infection that is both aerobic and anaerobic? (MRSA-Botulism/Tetanus)

All present in their mouth.

So, the bite kills because it's made up of deadly infections humans need treatment for in the best of times (MRSA, Botulism, Tetanus) - but a new bug, combining some of the most deadly bugs, is not one where a cure is possible at present. Mostly anaerobic, since no oxygen present in the dead. (maybe) So, more like Botulism and Tetanus than Staph. Maybe. Spores lie dormant too though, so...

(Thing is - is there oxygen present in the dead? Or just the air they are exposed to walking around that keeps things alive in their mouth? Something new with elements of both? I recall Jim having chills, fever, and severe bone aches/spasms and that touch caused him pain...like Tetanus would. So maybe the dead are suspended at the putrefaction stage...but they do seem to eventually rot, only slower...so maybe not suspended so much as an incredibly slow rate of decomposition...or maybe the walkers we see with bone exposed are not decaying and the exposed bone is where others have fed)

So we die from a bite that causes the deadly infection. Whatever it is.

But since we are already infected with the walker infection/virus then our bodies already know that strain and don't react to walker blood getting on us (or in our cuts, mouths, etc.. ) We already carry it inside of us. We have learned to live with it already. We've adapted to being its host. It lies dormant in our bodies. Sort of virus-like.

Something in death triggers it.

Maybe there is a certain amount of walker blood that is dangerous though. Maybe Kirkman is only using the broadest sense of how bacterial and viral infections work - which leaves open a lot of questions. Questions that can't be answered with what we know to be true since we're living in a world where the dead walk. Maybe that's part of the point - you can't apply the thinking of what used to be to what is happening now. Everything has changed.

I don't know. I'm just speculating.


ETA: Rick got cut with the machete he pulled out of the walker. He braces with one hand, pulls with the other, kills the walker - looks at his cut. I think he slices it when he pulls the machete out.

He does take a moment to look at the wound, and that does seem to indicate there's some concern for the wound. However, I'm not sure that means it is infected or will be infected with walker cooties. There might be a storyline where it does get infected, as any cut could get infected, creating tension - will he lose the hand or won't he? From interviews I've read, the show's creators/directors lean toward his not losing his hand.

But, you never know. Maybe he will lose the hand, but not from walker cooties - instead from regular old infections and the lack of antibiotics and prompt cleaning/treatment. Last week there was some mention of the dwindling supply of food - could mean less of everything, to include antibiotics.














Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
14. I'm just talking out of my melodious whistle blower. :)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

It was a heated topic in my house during the first couple of seasons and it still comes up again from time to time. Especially when a death throws a kink into our thinking. We, my husband and I, decided that Kirkman really doesn't want us to apply what we think we know to his world. Making all such speculation on how his virus/infection works futile, since there doesn't seem to be any strict rules. Well, no rules that he is willing to expand upon anyway. Well, except for when you die you turn. And he did say blood splatter wasn't enough to get you sick. So...2 things we know. (3 if you count cutting off a limb in a timely fashion)

That said, we still give it a go from time to time. Normally, a human body decomposing isn't a hazard unless by a deadly disease that is still alive after the death of its host. But safe handling reduces the chances of infection/spread. Safe burial, etc..

However, the dead walking is something new, so old rules won't necessarily apply. Still, some things almost have to remain constant. Look at the deadly virus in the prison - some sort of hemorrhagic fever that was made less lethal by what people already knew. (Hershel's knowledge as a vet and as someone raised around using available plants as medicines.)







Lex

(34,108 posts)
149. Remember - they *all* are already infected. They will all turn when they die.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

They used to think they could only get infected if bitten but now we know they all turn.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
151. Yes, I know. I account for that.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

I was talking about the difference between a walker bite and THE walker virus/infection and that the bite doesn't cause the virus/infection, while talking about how blood splatter doesn't cause an infection. (like the bite does)

You get bit, you get an infection that always kills you, you turn after death because of the walker virus/ infection, not the infection from the bite.

Unless said bite is on a limb that can be removed quickly enough.

However, blood splatter from a walker doesn't cause the killer infection. Which was the topic/question asked - why blood splatter doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does. Since so many people get walker blood on them during a fight - often in their eyes, mouth, and assorted cuts and wounds.

The question asked was related the pointed attention given to Rick's cut in the last episode. He loses his hand in the comics - a lot of people wonder if he will lose it in the show. So, any attention given to a wound on Rick's hand will generate questions about blood splatter - except Kirkman said blood splatter isn't enough to make you sick (get the same infection that kills you from a bite)

A bite kills - because of a deadly infection it causes. I was exploring what bacterial/viral infection that might be (from a bite) - not what the walker virus/infection is. Reasoning being, if a cure can be found for the bite, then a bite wouldn't be an automatic death sentence.

I was also suggesting that since everyone is already infected with the walker virus/infection, maybe that's why blood splatter from a walker doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does (since blood splatter was the topic) - assuming the deadly infection is present in their mouths but not throughout their bodies (and maybe their nails), and THE walker-turning virus/infection is present in walker blood/fluids, but since everyone is already infected, living tissue doesn't detect a difference. Already infected tissue not reacting to likewise infected fluids. Maybe that's why blood splatter doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does.

But I know the bite has nothing to do with being already infected with the latent/dormant walker infection/virus.

Sorry. Now I'm repeating myself from my comment above.







RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
154. I think he might have been bitten and was racing back
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:16 PM
Oct 2015

to Alexandria to amputate his hand. Maybe not---that would suck having a 1-handed Rick but he would still kick ass.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. Now, I hear we may have to wait till episode 7
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:56 PM
Oct 2015

to see when the cliffhanger is resolved - Morgan in episode 4, Sasha, Abraham and Daryl in episode 5 and Alexandria in episode 6

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
27. Glenn and Rick are together now.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:01 PM
Oct 2015

No name character is freaking out. (no name is attacked by a walker - who didn't see that coming?)

Glenn is helping someone who twisted their foot. NO, Glenn! We want you alive.

Oh - Rick is giving the fuck them , save yourself speech. In the nicest way possible.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
29. Yep. Now it has stopped. So, clean up & secure in Alexandria and walker in the woods with Rick, etc.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:06 PM
Oct 2015

I'm assuming they are cleaning up and securing the wall in A-town.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
31. Rick is now separated from the rest on an errand.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:10 PM
Oct 2015

Native Alexandrians are being grumpy.

Idiot with a gun causing problems.

Got scared and nervous. Reacted poorly. Shot one of their own.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
34. Yep. At my house we worried it would be the bald guy getting bit.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:14 PM
Oct 2015

He got shot instead.

He didn't get bit as well, did he? I don't think so - I think they got the walker off in time, but I could be wrong.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
36. Michonne is trying to get to know him before he has to die.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:16 PM
Oct 2015

I think she's going to turn and swipe his head off any second now.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
38. Ut oh. Bad place! I know that's a bad place! Leave!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:18 PM
Oct 2015

Found the nervous guy's hat and then they found him - he's dinner.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
54. Depends on how bad he was cut. I don't think it was that bad.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:38 PM
Oct 2015

I think he's exhausted. He has been running for several miles.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
57. I'm thinking it's going to be real sad before it is over.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:41 PM
Oct 2015

I hope Nicholas can stand strong. For whatever time remains him.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
66. I hoped he sacrifice himself, not take Glen down with him.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:49 PM
Oct 2015

such a shitty end.

edit to add, a crappy ending for a much beloved original. Not even well done.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
73. I'm going to watch that again
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

was Nicholas on top of Glenn as they fell, and then the walkers ate him. As they camera backed off, it almost seemed like Glenn was trying to slide under the dumpster

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
76. He fell on Glenn, knocking Glenn off balance. Glenn fell. They ripped Glenn apart like Dale.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:57 PM
Oct 2015

They showed intestines coming out of Glenn's body.

ETA. Maybe you're right. I closed my eyes, squinted a few times - and my anger did cloud my viewing. I'll watch it again.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
109. I got the impression that Glenn got stunned by the gun.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:00 AM
Oct 2015

Oh, I just noticed a mistake. They used the same zombie woman in two different situations. Maybe it's not a mistake because they're jumping around in time sequence.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
115. I was yelling at the TV at the time, and closing my eyes, and I was wrong.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:09 AM
Oct 2015

I was so angry at Nicholas the first time around. Pissed me off for Glenn to die because of someone else's stupidity - especially Nick's. People have died because of stupidity before, but not like that.

I just watched again and it is Nick being ripped apart. Not Glenn. Glenn's head is too far away from the chest that is being ripped open. The chest is slightly skewed from Glenn's head...the angle suggest it is not Glenn's body.

I think he was stunned by the suicide and Nick fell on him, causing them both to fall...Nick on top of Glenn.

So, if Glenn survives that - how does it get out? (if he does)

The creators had a note that Chris read on Talking Dead - "Some version of Glenn" will be seen in the future.

Whatever that means.

I've noticed the same zombie in different places before. Or zombies that look alike. I don't know.





Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
117. I noticed the zombie extra because she looks just like one of the actors on Orange is the New Black.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:19 AM
Oct 2015

Unfortunately, I couldn't find her picture. She is the close friend of the woman on the right.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
120. Omigod. It's Angie Rice.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:27 AM
Oct 2015

or rather, Julie Lake.

I just did a google and she looks like a completely different person in real life.

/revision/latest?cb=20150302120936

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
121. The one on the left is Taryn Manning. I adore her. Love her music.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:29 AM
Oct 2015

Boomkat featuring Taryn Manning.

Manning was in a zombie movie before. ("Zombie Apocalypse&quot

But you probably know that.

I just love Manning.

I think the other actress in the one time trio is Julie Lake - meth head w/ bad teeth on the show. Emma Myles is the actress on the right.

Autumn

(45,071 posts)
145. A heck of a lot of blood gushing out of that body. I would think with that much blood gushing out
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:38 PM
Oct 2015

death would be almost immediate or at least go unconscious. Yet Glen was alive.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
74. I hope those 3 make it back. (Michonne, Heath and shot guy)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

I hope Sasha, Daryl, and Abraham make it.

I hope Rick makes it.

I hope they all hunt down Nicholas' relatives, if any are left, and kill them all. Slowly. Painfully.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
127. You almost expect
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:54 AM
Oct 2015

the bald guy to have been killed by an escaping Wolf or something. (He's Sasha's husband in real life)



 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
141. They'll find the watch Hershel gave him
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:34 PM
Oct 2015

And assume the worst.

I no longer think Glenn is dead, despite my post upthread.

I think he survived but we're not going to know for a few episodes. I think Rick in the RV opening up on those three Wolves outside with his AK-47 distracted the walkers.

I think the blood and guts belonged to Nicholas getting ripped apart on top of Glenn.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
144. I don't know anymore. He could be. He could not be.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:26 PM
Oct 2015

We'll see.

I agree those are Nick's guts during the scene.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
148. I believe that as well
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:20 AM
Oct 2015

However, with so many walkers around, it's hard to believe that one of them didn't get a bite out of Glenn's ankle, thigh, elbow, wrist, etc, while tearing into Nicholas.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
86. They wanted us to think of Dale. He was ripped apart too.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:08 PM
Oct 2015

Dale took Glenn under his wing. Glenn took Nicholas under his. The RVs were intentional - to make us remember.

Now Rick is stalled in one.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
93. Maybe he's not really dead. Maybe he does make it under the dumpster before the walkers get him.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:17 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe those were Nick's guts and not Glenn's.

Maybe.

Maybe.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
92. So, was that Nick's guts? Because I admit to closing my eyes and cursing. I was fit to be tied.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:16 PM
Oct 2015

I was beyond angry at Nicholas. For Glenn to die because that idiot kills himself? Tis an outrage!

So does he make it under the dumpster in time?




 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
94. seriously.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:17 PM
Oct 2015

how can there still be so many fucking walkers?

There is a finite supply.

how could you not have fire bombed the fuck out of these shuffling slow ass mother fuckers after all damn ass years.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
95. Glenn was NOT on the "in memorium" sequence
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:20 PM
Oct 2015

on Talking Dead.

And, Steve Yuen was one of the originals - you're telling me that they give Enid a spot on Talking Dead when she leaves town, but no time for Steve Yuen? He should get an entire show to himself.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
96. Some version of Glenn? He's going to be a walker?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:23 PM
Oct 2015

He strolls up to Alexandria so Maggie can see him?

OK. I'm over it now.

He's either dead or he isn't. Good if he isn't, sad if he is.

The show goes on.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
100. Yeah. I didn't like Lori or the whole seeing Lori storyline.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:31 PM
Oct 2015

If Glenn is dead, let him stay dead. (heh)

That is actually my rule about dead people - stay that way. Not that I think the dead come back, it's just that they shouldn't come back. Strikes me as rather rude.

But I do love me some zombies!

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
101. I'm going to watch the repeat. I have to see the dumpster death scene again.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:40 PM
Oct 2015

Not that I'm holding out any hope. Way too many walkers to escape without major help. Which I don't see coming.

Just want to view it without being so angry at Nicholas.


Islandurp

(188 posts)
105. Still alive?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:42 PM
Oct 2015

I bet all those guts were Nicholas's and since Glenn got all that gore on himself the walkers left him alone. That idiot saved Glenn's life.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
107. Suicide mission.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:49 PM
Oct 2015

Well, that could have gone a lot better.

I'm guessing that the motto, "Don't give anyone second chances" still applies. Either you got it, or you don't got it.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
108. OK. Rewatching the dumpster death scene. That is Nick being torn apart.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:53 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:53 AM - Edit history (1)

And Glenn is trying to get under the dumpster. Way too much distance between Glenn's head and the off center chest being ripped open.

The things you notice when you're aren't yelling at the TV because some idiot decides to off himself and takes Glenn down with him.

Nicholas is still a POS. I don't care if his death ultimately saves Glenn. (for now)

ETA: OK. Watched it a 3rd time. I know, I know. Not so sure about Glenn trying to make it under the dumpster. There is movement from a body on the ground that seems to be heading in that direction, but the camera view is above the feeding frenzy at the time. It could be nothing more than walkers shifting the bodies of Nick and Glenn.

I normally watch each episode several times. For many reasons.







Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
116. I can't see how Glenn survives without a lot of help.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:18 AM
Oct 2015

So, even if he's not being chewed on at his feet, I don't see how he survives unless someone comes along.

He still might be dead...or near dead....or turned...by the time we see him again.

I was too angry at Nicholas to be sad over Glenn on the first viewing. Now I'm OK either way.

He either is or isn't dead. Yes, I want Glenn to survive, but after Chris read that note from the show creators/writers that we'll see "some version of Glenn" in the future, I stopped caring either way. Too much like we're being jerked around.

Kill off a main character. Do it and do it boldly. Yes, it is sad. Yes, I'll miss the character. Well, maybe not Carl too much. Just don't jerk me around over it.



Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
118. Well, we already have seen the Sophia twist, and we already had the Bob farewell.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:22 AM
Oct 2015

What version of Glenn could they be talking about? Maybe he gets bitten on his hand and he cuts his own hand off?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
126. Oddly
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:53 AM
Oct 2015

Michael Traynor (the actor playing Nicholas) was not on Talking Dead, either. Maybe it was a hallucination brought on by a panic attack and they're both still alive?

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
128. I hope it's not that.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:28 AM
Oct 2015

I thought that initially, but if they wanted that to work, they needed to make that reveal last night.

If they do this, they are in "Bobby Ewing in the shower" level. They need to just leave him dead. Unless they are setting up what happens to Glenn in the comics.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
135. But his death was part of the in memoriam on Talking Dead.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

They don't usually put you there unless you are dead, dead.

I can see how what you said could be the avenue they follow, though.

Especially since they did play up his panic attacks from the start of the episode.

After Chris read the letter on TD from the creators/writers, Glenn's death (or not) became background noise, so to speak. He is or he isn't. Show goes on either way.



pinstikfartherin

(500 posts)
113. Screw up on Glenn's scene, IMO.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:06 AM
Oct 2015

If he scoots under the dumpster? Load of crap. When he and Nicolas fell, they fell with their heads facing out toward the walkers. Toward the camera. When they show Glenn on the ground, his head is right by the dumpster. He would have had to of twisted around mid-air to make that happen. I'm not buying it.

I think getting him out of that would take something ridiculously stupid or some kind of cop out. Don't get me wrong! I like Glenn! But you can't keep letting them get out of impossible situations. That's crappy writing. That's not what I watch The Walking Dead for.

Have him show in a flashback. Have him as a walker. Don't let him out just to satisfy fans. I'm hoping that all the "I don't know" on the Talking Dead is just a distraction and he will get a real in memoriam when we know for sure he is dead.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
124. Remember last year
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:27 AM
Oct 2015

Carol and Daryl were in a car on a bridge and trapped and it was about to go over the edge - the car went over and it looked like it would flip over and land on its roof, but in the cutaway, it landed on its tires and they got away

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
131. I'm just guessing here
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

1) Since Steve Yuen was not on Talking Dead for a sendoff; and
2) Nobody was there to witness it

That Glenn managed to pull Nicholas on top of him and we'll get a scene in episode 7 where he is shown sliding under the dumpster covered in zombie guts and waiting for the zombies to get distracted by something else.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
142. a lot of dumpsters have wheels
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:43 PM
Oct 2015

see the bottom here:




In fact, I'd venture to say that Glen would be pretty well protected if he could slide under that dumpster.


and, it's not just that one.


Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
143. ah, I see
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 06:57 PM
Oct 2015

I didn't see a full shot of the dumpster in question. However (I have similar dumpsters at work), dumpster castors typically have a 4" wheel and about an inch of mounting bracket, but hey, anything's possible, it is TWD after all.

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
147. Thanks for giving me hope
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:00 PM
Oct 2015

Love to read these threads after the hubster and I watch the dvr'ed episode the next night.

Baitball Blogger

(46,704 posts)
155. If we had the internet back when Kennedy was shot, we would have the identity of the assassin in the
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:22 PM
Oct 2015

first 24 hours after the shooting.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
156. From that picture
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

it just struck me that maybe it's safe to conclude Glenn can't die here. It would be too easy. Look how outnumbered he is. It's total overkill. Of course, he's going to squirm out of this, that's what will make it a dramatic scene.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
157. If you go to the slow mo replay
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

of when they fell off the dumpster, you can clearly see Glenn pulled Nicholas on top of him as they fell.

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