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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsThe Walking Dead 6.3 "Thank You" (spoiler alert)
Rick and his group get caught up in a dangerous little town on the road back to Alexandria. Meanwhile, Daryl, Sasha and Abraham continue to lead away the remaining walkers away from the safe-zone.
Next week, for episode 4, we get a special 90 minute Morgan flashback episode to find out how & why he became the jedi master that he is currently.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Spoiling Dead Fans over on Facebook is usually pretty accurate - they're reporting that tonight, we see - swipe to the right [font color=white]the death of Nicholas, and also the death of a person that's been with TWD since season 1. That said, people are jumping through hoops over there to say that death is a dream, a hallucination, etc. Of course, they could leave us with a cliffhanger that won't be resolved until episode 5 if we get the flashback next week. [/font]
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)If we go on the theory that they give plush episodes to the Almost Departed, then the likely person is Carol. She's had great exposure, especially in that last episode. The others are Glen, Daryl, Rick and Carl.
This might be Glen's send off, though it breaks the "high exposure before the fall" theory.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)we have Rick, Morgan, Carl, Glenn, Carol and Daryl. Though, Morgan was gone for 4 seasons. The others - Ed, Jim, Jacqui, Amy, Andrea, Lori, Shane, Dale, Sophia and the rest are gone.
The fans on Spoiling Dead are jumping through hoops to come up with explanations for it not to be true - including pictures of the person in question on the set later in the season. The people that run the page are saying it's a hallucination and that we might not find out till episode 5 - which would really suck.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It would be funny if the WD writers used the Star Trek kiss of death.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, I don't think surviving 6 seasons qualifies one as a red shirt
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)I honestly have no idea. I've never read any of the comics (not that the show always follows them). Just a hunch though.
There would be too much fan outrage if Daryl or Carol were killed off. They're fan favorites, big time. Carl is probably the one fans would be happiest to see get killed off but I don't see the writers doing that to Rick's character.
Andrew Lincoln signed a 9-season contract. Clearly, he's going to be around a while.
A major character will die this season. Someone dies every season. Glenn seems like the logical guess. Probably happens during the mid-season finale.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)that Carol is actually the most indispensable character on the show. (and, her character is dead in the comics.)
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)Telling the kid on the steps "you're father is dead, get over it."
She minces no words.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm bored with him. LOL!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to come up with a reason to keep this person alive. Hallucinations, dreams, etc.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I wouldn't miss him either, but I think they want him around a while longer. We'll see Enid again, and I think Carl will too.
Still, someone needs to always stay behind and protect Judith. I am Team Judith to the core.
I want her growing up to be the shit-kicker she is destined to be.
It seems like Glenn's time - but that might have more to do with the comics than the show. Comic book readers accept Glenn's death as a real possibility, but the show likes to mind-fondle people.
Glenn is coming into his own, being a mentor and leader, so he has to go. LOL
It's a Ricktatorship world. Course, what if they kill off Rick? Just look for me in the corner, sucking my thumb if they do. If Judith dies, I'll be in the same corner but in the fetal position, pulling on my hair.
If Daryl bites it, I'll be the loud, soul piercing wailing sound everyone in the known universe hears.
But I exaggerate.
charlie and algernon
(13,447 posts)Morgan.
It would fall in line with the special 90 minute flashback episode of him next week.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Was it by the knife? I know we've been through this before, but can you explain to me again how someone can get turned by getting bitten, or by getting stabbed by a piece of exposed zombie bones, but not by the exchange of blood?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)unless there is something in the actual bite itself?
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)
So, walker blood getting on you, even on and in scratches and cuts, won't do it.
Below is just me thinking out loud. Trying to build a bridge, so to speak, to how Kirkman could be thinking. I know I'm using the broadest sense of the science involved.
Probably (based on the thinking that) because infected blood knows infected blood, and everyone is already infected. So maybe the body doesn't detect a foreign matter when walker blood gets on you because it isn't foreign. Some "people" have the active infection/virus (walkers) and some with the dormant infection/virus (live humans).
A bite leads to an infection - not THE infection/virus, since everyone is already infected/virus with that - but a killer infection with no cure (so far).
Still, death from a bite depends on where you were bitten and if they can remove the now infected limb quick enough. If the limb/bite area can't be removed, you die from an infection and death triggers the infection/virus. I haven't decided which it is yet. Bacterial v. viral. I'm leaning toward viral. The walker infection, that is. Not the bite. That's bacterial, I think. Could be spores, but I don't think so. Just one that has no cure since, well - who's looking for one during the zombie apocalypse? Not the CDC.
Death triggers the dormant walker infection/virus. So I have to die, by some means, to become a walker.
Stabbing with bone is probably the cause of death. Reanimation a byproduct of the death that triggers the dormant walker infection/virus.
Let's imagine that walker bites produce a super staph infection, for the sake of labeling, some sort of super MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus). Something along those lines.
This is all just hypothetical. But we do know that aerobic bacteria is present during early decomposition. We know that the decreasing availability of oxygen produces anaerobic bacteria. We know that Staph is part of the aerobic stage of decomposition and Clostridia is present during anaerobic decomposition. What if a walker body is stuck in those 2 stages of decomposing? A happy, though deadly, median, so to speak. So much so the walker body now produces an super infection that is both aerobic and anaerobic? (MRSA-Botulism/Tetanus)
All present in their mouth.
So, the bite kills because it's made up of deadly infections humans need treatment for in the best of times (MRSA, Botulism, Tetanus) - but a new bug, combining some of the most deadly bugs, is not one where a cure is possible at present. Mostly anaerobic, since no oxygen present in the dead. (maybe) So, more like Botulism and Tetanus than Staph. Maybe. Spores lie dormant too though, so...
(Thing is - is there oxygen present in the dead? Or just the air they are exposed to walking around that keeps things alive in their mouth? Something new with elements of both? I recall Jim having chills, fever, and severe bone aches/spasms and that touch caused him pain...like Tetanus would. So maybe the dead are suspended at the putrefaction stage...but they do seem to eventually rot, only slower...so maybe not suspended so much as an incredibly slow rate of decomposition...or maybe the walkers we see with bone exposed are not decaying and the exposed bone is where others have fed)
So we die from a bite that causes the deadly infection. Whatever it is.
But since we are already infected with the walker infection/virus then our bodies already know that strain and don't react to walker blood getting on us (or in our cuts, mouths, etc.. ) We already carry it inside of us. We have learned to live with it already. We've adapted to being its host. It lies dormant in our bodies. Sort of virus-like.
Something in death triggers it.
Maybe there is a certain amount of walker blood that is dangerous though. Maybe Kirkman is only using the broadest sense of how bacterial and viral infections work - which leaves open a lot of questions. Questions that can't be answered with what we know to be true since we're living in a world where the dead walk. Maybe that's part of the point - you can't apply the thinking of what used to be to what is happening now. Everything has changed.
I don't know. I'm just speculating.
ETA: Rick got cut with the machete he pulled out of the walker. He braces with one hand, pulls with the other, kills the walker - looks at his cut. I think he slices it when he pulls the machete out.
He does take a moment to look at the wound, and that does seem to indicate there's some concern for the wound. However, I'm not sure that means it is infected or will be infected with walker cooties. There might be a storyline where it does get infected, as any cut could get infected, creating tension - will he lose the hand or won't he? From interviews I've read, the show's creators/directors lean toward his not losing his hand.
But, you never know. Maybe he will lose the hand, but not from walker cooties - instead from regular old infections and the lack of antibiotics and prompt cleaning/treatment. Last week there was some mention of the dwindling supply of food - could mean less of everything, to include antibiotics.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)that's a lot of detail. Good thinking.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)It was a heated topic in my house during the first couple of seasons and it still comes up again from time to time. Especially when a death throws a kink into our thinking. We, my husband and I, decided that Kirkman really doesn't want us to apply what we think we know to his world. Making all such speculation on how his virus/infection works futile, since there doesn't seem to be any strict rules. Well, no rules that he is willing to expand upon anyway. Well, except for when you die you turn. And he did say blood splatter wasn't enough to get you sick. So...2 things we know. (3 if you count cutting off a limb in a timely fashion)
That said, we still give it a go from time to time. Normally, a human body decomposing isn't a hazard unless by a deadly disease that is still alive after the death of its host. But safe handling reduces the chances of infection/spread. Safe burial, etc..
However, the dead walking is something new, so old rules won't necessarily apply. Still, some things almost have to remain constant. Look at the deadly virus in the prison - some sort of hemorrhagic fever that was made less lethal by what people already knew. (Hershel's knowledge as a vet and as someone raised around using available plants as medicines.)
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)They used to think they could only get infected if bitten but now we know they all turn.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I was talking about the difference between a walker bite and THE walker virus/infection and that the bite doesn't cause the virus/infection, while talking about how blood splatter doesn't cause an infection. (like the bite does)
You get bit, you get an infection that always kills you, you turn after death because of the walker virus/ infection, not the infection from the bite.
Unless said bite is on a limb that can be removed quickly enough.
However, blood splatter from a walker doesn't cause the killer infection. Which was the topic/question asked - why blood splatter doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does. Since so many people get walker blood on them during a fight - often in their eyes, mouth, and assorted cuts and wounds.
The question asked was related the pointed attention given to Rick's cut in the last episode. He loses his hand in the comics - a lot of people wonder if he will lose it in the show. So, any attention given to a wound on Rick's hand will generate questions about blood splatter - except Kirkman said blood splatter isn't enough to make you sick (get the same infection that kills you from a bite)
A bite kills - because of a deadly infection it causes. I was exploring what bacterial/viral infection that might be (from a bite) - not what the walker virus/infection is. Reasoning being, if a cure can be found for the bite, then a bite wouldn't be an automatic death sentence.
I was also suggesting that since everyone is already infected with the walker virus/infection, maybe that's why blood splatter from a walker doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does (since blood splatter was the topic) - assuming the deadly infection is present in their mouths but not throughout their bodies (and maybe their nails), and THE walker-turning virus/infection is present in walker blood/fluids, but since everyone is already infected, living tissue doesn't detect a difference. Already infected tissue not reacting to likewise infected fluids. Maybe that's why blood splatter doesn't cause the deadly infection a bite does.
But I know the bite has nothing to do with being already infected with the latent/dormant walker infection/virus.
Sorry. Now I'm repeating myself from my comment above.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)to Alexandria to amputate his hand. Maybe not---that would suck having a 1-handed Rick but he would still kick ass.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)http://www.bustle.com/articles/118496-are-enid-the-wolves-working-together-on-the-walking-dead-carls-friend-is-mighty-suspicious
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3609918?lt_source=external,manual
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/23/walking-dead-melissa-mcbride-video-on-set
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/darryl-woodard/the-walking-dead-the-alex_b_8363562.html
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)http://comicbook.com/2015/10/25/the-walking-dead-who-dies-in-thank-you/
agree with most of this list except for Welcome to the Tombs being on the list.
http://screenrant.com/best-episodes-the-walking-dead/?view=all
http://www.comicsbeat.com/guest-column-ive-had-it-with-the-walking-dead-over-how-it-portrays-black-men/
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)a little over an hour to go.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to see when the cliffhanger is resolved - Morgan in episode 4, Sasha, Abraham and Daryl in episode 5 and Alexandria in episode 6
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)No name character is freaking out. (no name is attacked by a walker - who didn't see that coming?)
Glenn is helping someone who twisted their foot. NO, Glenn! We want you alive.
Oh - Rick is giving the fuck them , save yourself speech. In the nicest way possible.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)from episode 1
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I'm assuming they are cleaning up and securing the wall in A-town.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and another Alexandrian dies
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and, of course, he's shaping up to be a semi-decent human being, so he's going to die.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Is it wrong that I find that funny?
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Native Alexandrians are being grumpy.
Idiot with a gun causing problems.
Got scared and nervous. Reacted poorly. Shot one of their own.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)gets bitten from behind. Another red shirt death
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)He got shot instead.
He didn't get bit as well, did he? I don't think so - I think they got the walker off in time, but I could be wrong.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I think she's going to turn and swipe his head off any second now.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Found the nervous guy's hat and then they found him - he's dinner.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Nicholas is still having to fight his urge to run scared.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to distract the entire herd
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)looks like it will be the two of them
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Oh, that seals it. Nicholas is going with him.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)getting out Hershel's watch is a bad sign
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Its come full circle.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it certainly has
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and, Heath hung his head in shame afterwards
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I like him.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)as he got into the RV - exhaustion or blood loss?
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I think he's exhausted. He has been running for several miles.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Nicholas seems to have turned a corner...
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I hope Nicholas can stand strong. For whatever time remains him.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Looks to be covered in walkers.
But NO! He's still alive!
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)wow
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I was expecting Glenn to die - just not that way.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)such a shitty end.
edit to add, a crappy ending for a much beloved original. Not even well done.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)was Nicholas on top of Glenn as they fell, and then the walkers ate him. As they camera backed off, it almost seemed like Glenn was trying to slide under the dumpster
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)They showed intestines coming out of Glenn's body.
ETA. Maybe you're right. I closed my eyes, squinted a few times - and my anger did cloud my viewing. I'll watch it again.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Oh, I just noticed a mistake. They used the same zombie woman in two different situations. Maybe it's not a mistake because they're jumping around in time sequence.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I was so angry at Nicholas the first time around. Pissed me off for Glenn to die because of someone else's stupidity - especially Nick's. People have died because of stupidity before, but not like that.
I just watched again and it is Nick being ripped apart. Not Glenn. Glenn's head is too far away from the chest that is being ripped open. The chest is slightly skewed from Glenn's head...the angle suggest it is not Glenn's body.
I think he was stunned by the suicide and Nick fell on him, causing them both to fall...Nick on top of Glenn.
So, if Glenn survives that - how does it get out? (if he does)
The creators had a note that Chris read on Talking Dead - "Some version of Glenn" will be seen in the future.
Whatever that means.
I've noticed the same zombie in different places before. Or zombies that look alike. I don't know.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Unfortunately, I couldn't find her picture. She is the close friend of the woman on the right.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)or rather, Julie Lake.
I just did a google and she looks like a completely different person in real life.
/revision/latest?cb=20150302120936
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Boomkat featuring Taryn Manning.
Manning was in a zombie movie before. ("Zombie Apocalypse"
But you probably know that.
I just love Manning.
I think the other actress in the one time trio is Julie Lake - meth head w/ bad teeth on the show. Emma Myles is the actress on the right.
Autumn
(45,071 posts)death would be almost immediate or at least go unconscious. Yet Glen was alive.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)Damn. Fucking Nicholas!
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Not even slightly.
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I hope Sasha, Daryl, and Abraham make it.
I hope Rick makes it.
I hope they all hunt down Nicholas' relatives, if any are left, and kill them all. Slowly. Painfully.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)from the town are the ones that make it. Quite a twist for TWD
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)are listening.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the bald guy to have been killed by an escaping Wolf or something. (He's Sasha's husband in real life)
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)They'll have to assume he's dead.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)And assume the worst.
I no longer think Glenn is dead, despite my post upthread.
I think he survived but we're not going to know for a few episodes. I think Rick in the RV opening up on those three Wolves outside with his AK-47 distracted the walkers.
I think the blood and guts belonged to Nicholas getting ripped apart on top of Glenn.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)We'll see.
I agree those are Nick's guts during the scene.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)However, with so many walkers around, it's hard to believe that one of them didn't get a bite out of Glenn's ankle, thigh, elbow, wrist, etc, while tearing into Nicholas.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Really is hard to believe otherwise.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)surrounded by walkers and a stalled RV
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)those big RVs have caused a lot of problems
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Dale took Glenn under his wing. Glenn took Nicholas under his. The RVs were intentional - to make us remember.
Now Rick is stalled in one.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)he was handy that way
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)But, yeah...Glenn was good about that.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Maggie won't even get any closure if Glenn really did die
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I didn't need to know Glenn was made out of sausage links.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Maybe those were Nick's guts and not Glenn's.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)I was beyond angry at Nicholas. For Glenn to die because that idiot kills himself? Tis an outrage!
So does he make it under the dumpster in time?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)how can there still be so many fucking walkers?
There is a finite supply.
how could you not have fire bombed the fuck out of these shuffling slow ass mother fuckers after all damn ass years.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)on Talking Dead.
And, Steve Yuen was one of the originals - you're telling me that they give Enid a spot on Talking Dead when she leaves town, but no time for Steve Yuen? He should get an entire show to himself.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Whatever that means.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)He strolls up to Alexandria so Maggie can see him?
OK. I'm over it now.
He's either dead or he isn't. Good if he isn't, sad if he is.
The show goes on.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)for the remainder of season 3, if you recall.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)If Glenn is dead, let him stay dead. (heh)
That is actually my rule about dead people - stay that way. Not that I think the dead come back, it's just that they shouldn't come back. Strikes me as rather rude.
But I do love me some zombies!
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Not that I'm holding out any hope. Way too many walkers to escape without major help. Which I don't see coming.
Just want to view it without being so angry at Nicholas.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I'm losing steam here on Sunday night
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Thank you for the threads, btw!
You make viewing TWD better!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I'm glad they've been pretty busy this season - all of them 100+ posts
Islandurp
(188 posts)I bet all those guts were Nicholas's and since Glenn got all that gore on himself the walkers left him alone. That idiot saved Glenn's life.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Could happen. Walker guts have saved Glenn before.
Iris
(15,653 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Well, that could have gone a lot better.
I'm guessing that the motto, "Don't give anyone second chances" still applies. Either you got it, or you don't got it.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:53 AM - Edit history (1)
And Glenn is trying to get under the dumpster. Way too much distance between Glenn's head and the off center chest being ripped open.
The things you notice when you're aren't yelling at the TV because some idiot decides to off himself and takes Glenn down with him.
Nicholas is still a POS. I don't care if his death ultimately saves Glenn. (for now)
ETA: OK. Watched it a 3rd time. I know, I know. Not so sure about Glenn trying to make it under the dumpster. There is movement from a body on the ground that seems to be heading in that direction, but the camera view is above the feeding frenzy at the time. It could be nothing more than walkers shifting the bodies of Nick and Glenn.
I normally watch each episode several times. For many reasons.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)So, even if he's not being chewed on at his feet, I don't see how he survives unless someone comes along.
He still might be dead...or near dead....or turned...by the time we see him again.
I was too angry at Nicholas to be sad over Glenn on the first viewing. Now I'm OK either way.
He either is or isn't dead. Yes, I want Glenn to survive, but after Chris read that note from the show creators/writers that we'll see "some version of Glenn" in the future, I stopped caring either way. Too much like we're being jerked around.
Kill off a main character. Do it and do it boldly. Yes, it is sad. Yes, I'll miss the character. Well, maybe not Carl too much. Just don't jerk me around over it.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)What version of Glenn could they be talking about? Maybe he gets bitten on his hand and he cuts his own hand off?
pinstikfartherin
(500 posts)I've read that some are speculating that Maggie is pregnant.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Michael Traynor (the actor playing Nicholas) was not on Talking Dead, either. Maybe it was a hallucination brought on by a panic attack and they're both still alive?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)I thought that initially, but if they wanted that to work, they needed to make that reveal last night.
If they do this, they are in "Bobby Ewing in the shower" level. They need to just leave him dead. Unless they are setting up what happens to Glenn in the comics.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)They don't usually put you there unless you are dead, dead.
I can see how what you said could be the avenue they follow, though.
Especially since they did play up his panic attacks from the start of the episode.
After Chris read the letter on TD from the creators/writers, Glenn's death (or not) became background noise, so to speak. He is or he isn't. Show goes on either way.
pinstikfartherin
(500 posts)If he scoots under the dumpster? Load of crap. When he and Nicolas fell, they fell with their heads facing out toward the walkers. Toward the camera. When they show Glenn on the ground, his head is right by the dumpster. He would have had to of twisted around mid-air to make that happen. I'm not buying it.
I think getting him out of that would take something ridiculously stupid or some kind of cop out. Don't get me wrong! I like Glenn! But you can't keep letting them get out of impossible situations. That's crappy writing. That's not what I watch The Walking Dead for.
Have him show in a flashback. Have him as a walker. Don't let him out just to satisfy fans. I'm hoping that all the "I don't know" on the Talking Dead is just a distraction and he will get a real in memoriam when we know for sure he is dead.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Carol and Daryl were in a car on a bridge and trapped and it was about to go over the edge - the car went over and it looked like it would flip over and land on its roof, but in the cutaway, it landed on its tires and they got away
charlie and algernon
(13,447 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)1) Since Steve Yuen was not on Talking Dead for a sendoff; and
2) Nobody was there to witness it
That Glenn managed to pull Nicholas on top of him and we'll get a scene in episode 7 where he is shown sliding under the dumpster covered in zombie guts and waiting for the zombies to get distracted by something else.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and, Ned Stark deserved a better death, too, and so did Catelyn Stark.
Iris
(15,653 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Unless they're a cardboard cut out.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Maybe he's part boneless cat.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)see the bottom here:
In fact, I'd venture to say that Glen would be pretty well protected if he could slide under that dumpster.
and, it's not just that one.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)I didn't see a full shot of the dumpster in question. However (I have similar dumpsters at work), dumpster castors typically have a 4" wheel and about an inch of mounting bracket, but hey, anything's possible, it is TWD after all.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)Love to read these threads after the hubster and I watch the dvr'ed episode the next night.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)with labels.
Baitball Blogger
(46,704 posts)first 24 hours after the shooting.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)it just struck me that maybe it's safe to conclude Glenn can't die here. It would be too easy. Look how outnumbered he is. It's total overkill. Of course, he's going to squirm out of this, that's what will make it a dramatic scene.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)of when they fell off the dumpster, you can clearly see Glenn pulled Nicholas on top of him as they fell.