Roman Polanski name dropped in GD ... curious if anyone here ever saw Bitter Moon ...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

Bitter Moon (1992)
British couple Fiona and Nigel Dobson are sailing to Istanbul en route to India. They encounter a beautiful French woman, and that night Nigel meets her while dancing alone in the ship's bar. Later he meets her crippled American husband Oscar, who tells him their story. While living in Paris for several years trying to be a writer, he becomes obsessed with a woman he met by chance on a bus. He tracks her down and they start a steamy love affair. Soon Oscar finds himself enslaved body and soul by her love, and continues to tell Nigel the details of this relationship in various stages over a number of visits to Oscar's cabin.
- Written by Sami Al-Taher

Director: Roman Polanski
Writers: Pascal Bruckner (novel), Roman Polanski (screenplay), 3 more credits »
Stars: Hugh Grant, Kristin Scott Thomas, Emmanuelle Seigner bar.

[arcane1]

1. My ex showed that movie to me back when we were still together.

It was... interesting, anyway. I wasn't bored, but I don't see myself owning it.

She loved RP and we used to argue about him now and then. She took the side of letting him be a free man.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. I am one that separates the art from the artist.

That said ... having watched this movie ... I think RP actually .... learned .... something ....

would he have learned it otherwise .... in prison .... ?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

3. I feel the same way

Polanski for me is one of the world's greatest artists alive today, considering his body of work from the fascinating "Knife In The Water" onward. I don't approve of his personal life but I love his movies for the most part.

[seabeyond]

4. does it matter if he would have learned something or not? he raped, drugged a 13 yr old girl. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. Had I been able I would have given him time.

Yes, he is a rapist. After seeing this movie I think he has regrets. Still does not change what he did. You are right.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. would you see the movie or not? that is what I meant by separating the art from the artist.

maybe others mean that phrase differently,

[seabeyond]

11. first, the ony movie i have walked out of was annie hall. i have not like any of the allen

movies i have seen. cant do whine. ever. even my little ones. geez, or my husband. no whine. so no. i would not watch simply cause i do not like his "art".

and no, i would not watch, cause i am just not entertained by this story of a pathetic old fart after the girl. that story never floated my boat. maybe i should see if the movie you refer to has that theme, i do not know. so many of his movies does.

lastly, ... i cant/dont separate. i cant watch a mel gibson movie without seeing his wild bigoted self anymore and i really liked him. i wont watch a charlie sheen anymore and i really liked him. so no, i do not watch, when their off screen totally turns me off. i see that as part of them and it follows into their character.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

13. i cant/dont separate. Then we understand each other? --

you can not judge the art for seeing the artist behind the art.

would this be an accurate statement of your position?

[seabeyond]

15. i can judge the movie without the influence probably... and detach, but i always bring that in.

i can probably say, if i took the time to watch, whether it was a good movie or not whether i liked the person or not. but, if i do not like the person, i do not particularly enjoy the movie.

like, i have never liked allens whine. i do not like his personality and it seems to flavor the movie. or.... it is just his characters. (this has nothing to do with his pedophile self). but, once learning his history, i have a conscious decision to boycott, like i have done with other actors/actresses.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

19. and that is your right. I can respect your decision to boycott.

truth is I did not even realize that RP did Bitter Moon until after I watched it. and that is when I came to the conclusion that he chose to make this film for a personal reason ... but, I could be wrong about that. It made me wonder though ... so, I can see how the art and the artist can also NOT be viewed separately

I checked out Bitter Moon because Hugh Grant was in it. Silly me.

[ismnotwasm]

32. He's an excellent director

A true artistical genius with movies and a pig of a human being. I like Tarentino movies too, and while as far as I know he's not at Polanski level creepy, he's not the worlds nicest guy either.


Edit-haven't seen the movie

[seabeyond]

33. I like tarentino also. i do not go out looking for shit on people.

but ya.... when i hear it, i do process that and it is there. not gonna ignore it. not me. i prefer to not hear any of this shit.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

35. I don't like all of Tarentino movies. He is hit or miss for me, like Woody.

If you ever do see Bitter Moon ,,, let me know what you think

I thought The Pianist was genius. Did you see it?

[ismnotwasm]

38. No, like I'm not an emotional movie fan

Horror and quirky are what I like. I like to read reviews and analysis though.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

39. oh yeah, I like those, too. Quirky is always fun and Nothing like a good horror film

on a dark, cold, rainy night

[seabeyond]

42. i have NEVER seen a horror, lol. quirky, i love. what is the one with carlin the priest.....

and chris rock. love that one. tickled me, years ago.

[seabeyond]

12. ha ha... we are talking polanski. lol, not allen. my bad. k.... so polanski.

i do not know that i have watched any of his movies and for no other reason, but his flavor of movie does not interest me. i have never hooked up with one of his movies. and this one doesnt interest me either.

(i am not a huge media watcher)

but, no. i wouldnt watch or honor his talent, because of what he got away with.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. so then, you did not see The Pianist ... ?

The Pianist (2002)
R | 150 min | Biography, Drama, War | 28 March 2003 (USA)

A Polish Jewish musician struggles to survive the destruction of the Warsaw ghetto of World War II.

Director: Roman Polanski
Writers: Ronald Harwood (screenplay), Wladyslaw Szpilman (book)
Stars: Adrien Brody, Thomas Kretschmann, Frank Finlay



and sea, you do realize that more than One Person is involved in the making of a film, yes ... ?

[seabeyond]

17. no tuesday, really? there is more than one? really? lol

i wouldnt watch the pianist just cause it is not my type of movie. that is what i am saying, he makes movies that do not interest me anyway, well before i learned about his personal experience. when i learn something i oppose, whether it is merely him or thousands involved, i wont give him my $.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. ok ... sea ... what Kind of movies DO you like then?

[seabeyond]

22. i go a lot of comedy, action.... i do not do drama. at all. almost never. or mafia, cowboy,

or war movies.

like notebook. it is suppose to be so good. no interest at all. too heavy.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

24. the Notebook? two words

Ryan. Gosling.

The End.

[seabeyond]

25. lol lol. see. not even sure who that is. lol. i do like gardner.

a fav was ..... oh oh oh, what was that with jodi something? western. lol. oh, and mel, when i liked him.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

26. gosh yes ,,, James Garner ... how could I forget. that was a twofer for me And are you are thinking

about Maverick with James Garner and Jodi Foster ... perhaps ... yes, Mel was in that, too.

[seabeyond]

27. lol. yes. that one, maverick. a fav. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

28. yeah, that was a fun ride. Did you see Murphy's Romance with James Garner and Sally Fields?

That is an all time fave of mine. I will sit down to watch that one again anytime.

[seabeyond]

29. yup. liked that one too. nt

[seabeyond]

30. there are a lot of movies i have watched once, cause hubby got them.

like gladiators, braveheart, ect.... that i was glad i watched once, cause they were well made movies and would never watch again, cause they are not my type of movies.

movies like the bourne series, i love. the stupid, like independence, (anything will smith), tremors, the burb, i watch a lot and kids roll their eyes. mars attack, lol.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

31. I am not sure I have a "type" --- I will give just about anything a chance ... lol.

[seabeyond]

34. i know that about you. that is not me. i LOVE to read. too many books, too little time.

even that, i am very particular what i read, cause, there is so much for me to get thru, i do not need to mess with the stuff i do not like, i do not agree with, that pisses me off, lol.

i get more than enough in real life. i do not want it in my entertainment.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

36. sea, I used to LOVE to read. I was reading by the age of two and had my nose in a book

all my growing up years, well into my adulthood but, -something- happened (I don't know what or how to explain it) and about ten years ago ... all of a sudden - I couldn't read. The written word on paper of any kind gave me High Anxiety.

I haven't gotten over it ... somewhat ... in the past two years or so but, not fully recovered.

[seabeyond]

37. interesting. i was/am that type reader also. i gotta always read, one form or another, .....

and that is the joy of the net. again, so much reading, yea. both boys are like that also. the oldest is phenomenal in his reading, joy and comprehension. he could easily do an english degree, and may just add for fun and enjoyment and further knowledge.

i stopped books, .... when i had kids. lol. aint gonna happen. i could only read small pieces. and too frustrated to do with a book. i can easily go a book a day.

when they hit an age, i was free.

your situation is interesting. gonna think about that.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

41. always thinking ... our sea

lol

[seabeyond]

43. THAT. i cannot stop. do not know how, do not get people that can.

that is one of the hugest thing with hubby and i. oldest son and i just look at each other. we are clueless. the ability to not think. son and i will even think about not thinking, lol.

it is exhausting

for everyone, around us. lol

[ismnotwasm]

40. I'm a reader too, but I'll go back and forth once in a while

I'll get hooked on genre reading too. I'm about ready to go back to cyberpunk.

[seabeyond]

44. i got a little flavor of that, and it was fun.

one has to totally jump into that though. i will get there, in time. it is on my list.....

[ismnotwasm]

45. I need to read William Gibson's "The Peripheral" for genre reading.

As well as the new one by Neal Steaphenson.


I also want to tackle the newest Pynchon novel for that matter, but I need a few uninterrupted days for HIS books.

[seabeyond]

46. see!!!!.... so much to do, lol. nt

[ismnotwasm]

47. I know!

I get behind on reading fast

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. lol ... Woody Allen has always been a hit or miss for me.

I did think Cate Blanchett and the cast of Blue Jasmine were very good.

[seabeyond]

18. i was so turned off by anniw hall, the first half hour, i cant remember why. i was twelve.

the only movie i walked out of, ever. lol. i have not chosen to ever watch another of his.

i know prior to that, i had seen at least one, cause he was of my time. i liked keaton, and went for keaton, but couldnt do allen. maybe even at 12 i felt his creepy.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

21. I did not like Annie Hall either ... I liked the start of it but, then it fell apart for me. eom.

[seabeyond]

23. interesting. good to know. i thought it bad, but it won awards, lol.

i wondered about that. funny

[jakeXT]

8. I'm surprised how she thinks and stays in contact with him

When Samantha Geimer was 13, the famous 43-year-old film director Roman Polanski said that he was photographing young American girls for a feature in French Vogue. With forgivable naivety, Geimer's mother allowed him to take her out alone. He photographed her topless, which she did not tell her mother.

A few weeks later, Polanski took Samantha to Jack Nicholson's house, gave her several glasses of champagne and part of a sleeping pill, then had sex with her. It was statutory rape. Geimer says: "It was rape in every sense of the word. I said no."


...

When Roman Polanski, who has lived in exile from America and its justice system for decades, was nominated for an Oscar for directing The Pianist, Samantha Geimer called on the Academy to "judge the movie, not the man".

She has been exchanging emails with Polanski for several years.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/29/roman-polanski-samantha-geimer

[Tuesday Afternoon]

9. it does not surprise me. probably, a psychologist would explain it as

some kind of attachment disorder .... maybe along the lines of Stockholm Syndrome ...

I don't think it surprising that he obviously had an impact on her life and left an indelible impression on her.

The Pianist was a great film, I thought. Really excellent work.

[lovemydog]

6. Yes. I think it's a great movie.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

7. I don't know about great but, it told a good story very well.

It is definitely a solid A ... but, is it an A+ .... ?

I wonder how different his life would have been if Sharon Tate not been killed.

[cemaphonic]

48. Yeah, I'd say middle of the pack for Polanski

It's good (and funny, once you get attuned to Polanski's weird sense of humor), but it's not in the same league as "Repulsion."