so the wifes new pup has epilepsy...the medicine does....wild things to her

[backwoodsbob]

first off I never want to make fun of a sick dog....but DAYUM.
We have had her about two months and she was having on bad days four and five seizures.The vet put her on anti seizure and all was good until last night.
Now keep in mind she is the smallest dog I have ever seen....she is half teacup pom and half teacup maltese...when we got her at eight weeks we were still weighing her in ounces.

She has always had seizures and we have figured out she has epilepsy but it was controlled until last night when she had two seizures.We called the vet this morning and he said to double up her anti seizure meds.
Keep in mind she was so small they had to figure out her meds at first and took a small dog anti seizure med and cut it into 8 pieces.

When I got home after work she was due so I gave her a double dose....OMG

She's like a cokehead on a binge.....walking laps and muttering to herself...she took Charlies favorite squeeky toy and slung it at him as she walked past....she is wound up to about twelve right now.

Is this normal for anti siezure meds on a dog?

[orleans]

1. i don't know. but i'm kicking this so hopefully you'll get an answer.

i wonder -- maybe call the vet & talk to somebody.

[backwoodsbob]

2. she seems fine...just WOUND UP

she cant jump on the couch...she is too small....but she can tonight.
She's a trip right now.
She seems perfectly fine...no seizures or anything....just wound really tight

[backwoodsbob]

3. her med is

Levetracetam

[Brigid]

4. YouTube candidate!

Your description made me

[whistler162]

5. SO stop giving your wife the medicine

that is for the dog.

[backwoodsbob]

6. WTF?

[backwoodsbob]

7. come to my house and call my wife a dog

you wouldn't walk away

[FSogol]

9. Wouldn't walk away without a few hours of grammar lessons.

[Kali]

11. it was a joke

this is the lounge, relax

they weren't calling your wife a dog, they were riffing off your subject line

[reflection]

19. .

Clearly he/she was having fun with your subject line.

[backwoodsbob]

8. if you would like to call my wife a dog to my face I'll pm you my address

or you can pm me yours...we can have a conversation about it

[whistler162]

10. Zoom over the head on that one.

No where did I refer to your wife as a dog. I did however suggest, TONGUE IN CHEEK, that you should be giving the medicine to the dog instead of your wife especially since it is causing her to do wild things.

[OhioChick]

12. I've never heard of Levetracetam before

My vet always prescribed the old tried and true Phenobarbital for epilepsy in my dog.

[irisblue]

14. Levetracetam is a Keppra analog

Phenobarb was Alexs' first med as well. Phenobarb is dirt cheap too.

[irisblue]

13. I have a great deal of experience with Canine Epilepsy. My first dog was epileptic

and he lived loved, long and well. Bob, do you live near a major vet teaching hospital? As much as I loved/love my local vets, they were glad to refer me and Alex to an expert. Did your vet tell you about the valium protocol to try to prevent a second sz or a cluster? Several major websites with loads and loads of information are 1-http://www.canine-epilepsy.com 2 http://www.canine-epilepsy.net there are several Yahoo groups that you can learn from. PM me if you want to talk.

[backwoodsbob]

15. I hope you wont end up hating me

I have so many questions but she is quiet for now and sleepy so we are going to lay down but I have so many questions for you I hope you wont end up hating me.

I've never had a dog with epilepsy and I am totally lost.....I am hoping my vet knows what she is talking about and it is hope and a wing and a prayer from there right now

[backwoodsbob]

16. valium seizure proticol

will that stop wave seizures?

She was having several a day seizures until they got her on the abouve thread mentioned Levetracetam.

She was doing great for about a month and now the seizures are coming back.

she can go weeks without an episode but if she has one we know to sit up because she will have 4 or 5

I feel so bad for her...even after the seizure she wants to run to burn the nerves I guess and progressively she is off balance longer and longer after a seizure

[irisblue]

18. canine epilepsy , Alex and the valium protocol

Alex the Wonder dog, most handsome Prince of Columbus had his first seizure in 1996. There wasn't a lot known then, I stumbled on an article about canine epilepsy and first used the internet to find those groups I mentioned above, I found help, comfort and advice from them. Those articles are very good and excellent resources. The valium protocol was designed in the late 80s/early 90s in part by vets at Ohio State University and University of Kentucky. A variation is used in humans now to lessen the chance of further seizures (I don't know anything about other mammals with epilepsy so I can't speak to those issues). A needless syringe of the right amount of liquid valium is CAREFULLY inserted into the dogs rectum and slowly injected. The rectal walls are well vascularized and the valium will get into the dogs circulatory system and therefore into the circulatory system of the brain quicker then giving a pill.

The walking around in circles, almost blindly is the post ictal phase, it is almost as though the brain has to work off all that excess electrical energy. Some times the seizures will use so much of the brains' glucose stores that a second seizure is possible, so on advice from the groups when I could see Alex was ' back' he and any other dog would get some all natural ice creams or a scrambled egg.

[irisblue]

17. never!

a whole bunch of people helped me, It is a scary thing to see your fur baby like that. PM me any time

[WinkyDink]

20. Your title's syntax is correct (unless people think this dog should be an "it" and not a "her"?).

Punctuation, OTOH,.....!

[bobclark86]

21. I had a very old dog with seizures...

Barbituates are the way to go. Benzodiazapam (Valium) works well.

[Kali]

22. and now you want to breed her multiple times?

that is some sick fucking shit.