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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:37 PM Jun 2014

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West face backlash over ‘cruel and tacky’ decision to pierce baby's ears



Kim Kardashian and Kanye West face backlash over ‘cruel and tacky’ decision to pierce baby North West’s ears

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West’s decision to pierce their daughter North’s ears for her first birthday is drawing criticism on Twitter.

The diamond solitaire studs, which North was first seen wearing on June 15th, have sparked accusations that the couple are treating their daughter as a press ploy and dress-up doll.






‘Kim Kardashian has pierced her one-year-old's ears? That's cruel AND tacky...[sic]’ tweeted one enraged onlooker named Katy Brent.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2660459/Kim-Kardashian-Kanye-West-face-backlash-cruel-tacky-decision-pierce-baby-North-Wests-ears.html#ixzz34vX74mfV


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Kim Kardashian and Kanye West face backlash over ‘cruel and tacky’ decision to pierce baby's ears (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 OP
I read the story last night. TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #1
My daughter's were pierced on her 2nd birthday ... Myrina Jun 2014 #2
Piercing of baby's ears was often done when I was a kid. didn't know it was now controversal Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #3
Mine were pierced as a baby Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #51
And had she told you that she wanted her ears pierced? Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #4
Poking a hole in a baby's flesh for decorative purposes. Because toddlers need to look fancy? NightWatcher Jun 2014 #5
it's a tiny little prick with super sharp sterile needle. Not "poking" with an ice pick Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #6
did I say "with an ice pick"? But I was correct that it's for decorative purpose, right? NightWatcher Jun 2014 #7
yup - it's for decoration purposes Skittles Jun 2014 #21
Decorative, yes Ineeda Jun 2014 #22
I was not aware you pierced a body part to wear bows and frilly dresses Skittles Jun 2014 #23
So your culture is the only one that counts? Ineeda Jun 2014 #25
Well most parents dress their kids w/o consent too. At that age the little rug rats are nudies. IrishAyes Jun 2014 #33
Unnecessary choking hazard. DamnYankeeInHouston Jun 2014 #8
It's an odd cultural thing in my community. hunter Jun 2014 #9
Not necessarily either one. IrishAyes Jun 2014 #34
This is extremely common in Latino culture. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #10
True. Very common in Bolivia and Peru. n/t FSogol Jun 2014 #42
Wow… disappointed parenting reaction here... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #11
Oh Jeebus. progressoid Jun 2014 #26
As much as I do not care for these people I sure am glad the world did not help ME raise MY kids. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #12
No kidding! a la izquierda Jun 2014 #14
Would I do it? No, but... Wait Wut Jun 2014 #13
not right Skittles Jun 2014 #15
doesnt suck at all Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #24
When the child is old enough to understand, she can let the holes close. blueamy66 Jun 2014 #28
OR Skittles Jun 2014 #30
Come on...the pain is minimal... blueamy66 Jun 2014 #41
ok we will agree to disagree Skittles Jun 2014 #46
Oh FFS... Callmecrazy Jun 2014 #16
I have to agree and honestly I have seen kids get them soon after birth LynneSin Jun 2014 #27
I think it's up to the parents. hamsterjill Jun 2014 #17
A large part of the piercing is done for cultural identity purposes, and 13 is a little late 2 start IrishAyes Jun 2014 #35
Now a senior, I have known of this practice at least since I was a teenager. No Vested Interest Jun 2014 #38
I understand and largely agree. The thing about ear piercing is that those little girls denied IrishAyes Jun 2014 #40
No, I'm reacting as someone who knows that there have been health issues with doing this. hamsterjill Jun 2014 #44
You are perfectly free and welcome to react as you wish. I, however, have never come across any IrishAyes Jun 2014 #49
As opposed to naming her North West, which was neither cruel nor tacky. KamaAina Jun 2014 #18
Could've been worse, they could've named here Adam. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #19
I don't believe they live in Quahog, R.I. KamaAina Jun 2014 #20
What is cruel and tacky is having Kanye and Kim for parents! edbermac Jun 2014 #29
This mythology Jun 2014 #37
Were the baby's ears pierced while Kim was breastfeeding her at Olive Garden? kwassa Jun 2014 #31
That's highly unlikely. In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #43
love the butterfly Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #48
yes...and they were petting a pitbull at the same time! EX500rider Jun 2014 #54
My cousins got their ears pieieced when they were babies lunamagica Jun 2014 #32
I pierced both my daughters ears when they were babes. Younger than a year. mackerel Jun 2014 #36
I have zero idea why a baby's ears need to be pierced. Jenoch Jun 2014 #39
i believe my granddaughters ears were pierced at 1 year old too. n/t. okieinpain Jun 2014 #45
It's only "cruel and tacky" when the cruel and tacky Kim Kardashian does anything jmowreader Jun 2014 #47
I am no fan of the Kardashian clan, but they are so disliked they will continue to be a target lumpy Jun 2014 #50
Next thing you know... Callmecrazy Jun 2014 #52
In Puerto Rico Bombero1956 Jun 2014 #53

TexasTowelie

(112,456 posts)
1. I read the story last night.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jun 2014

It said that the girl had a photo taken about a month ago and her ears weren't pierced. Normally, they put in metal studs that are nickel-free to avoid problems with metal sensitivity. It would be terrible if their daughter developed some type of infection just to look good in a glamor shot.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
2. My daughter's were pierced on her 2nd birthday ...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jun 2014

They did both ears at the same time with the tiny gold studs. Sure she squealed for a little while but a trip to the mall ice cream shop ended it real quick.

I don't see the problem.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. Poking a hole in a baby's flesh for decorative purposes. Because toddlers need to look fancy?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jun 2014

I don't understand it, sorry.

Let the Baby Piercing Flamewars Begin

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
7. did I say "with an ice pick"? But I was correct that it's for decorative purpose, right?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jun 2014

and its done without the baby's consent, right?

Why is it needed?

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
22. Decorative, yes
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jun 2014

but so are pretty little bows and frilly dresses.

Piercing baby girls' ears is very much a cultural thing, (as mentioned by others.)

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
23. I was not aware you pierced a body part to wear bows and frilly dresses
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jun 2014

oh dear; times must have changed

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
33. Well most parents dress their kids w/o consent too. At that age the little rug rats are nudies.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jun 2014

Would you say it's cruel to dress them against their wishes?

hunter

(38,328 posts)
9. It's an odd cultural thing in my community.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jun 2014

Not nearly so weird as circumcision.

I'm a circumcised white guy. (TMI, I know...)

I've also got a pierced ear, but that was voluntary, as a young adult.

Tell me now, which was worse?

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
34. Not necessarily either one.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

Though at least in general, the pierced ear is for decoration and cultural identity; I don't know that the circumcision necessarily enjoys both purposes.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
10. This is extremely common in Latino culture.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jun 2014

I don't think it's a huge deal. The earlobes don't have many nerve endings. (I have pierced ears.)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
12. As much as I do not care for these people I sure am glad the world did not help ME raise MY kids.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jun 2014

Not my kid, not that unusual. Not my business.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
14. No kidding!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jun 2014

I've had my ears pierced since I was a tiny baby. It's very common in my huge, extended family.
I don't understand why anyone feels the need to be so involved in others' decisions that do not concern them.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
13. Would I do it? No, but...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jun 2014

...I don't care if someone else does. There are much worse parenting fails than ear piercing. If the kid doesn't like them when she's older, she can let them close. When they get her a tattoo, let me know.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
15. not right
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jun 2014

I've chosen to NEVER have my ears pierced and it would suck having your parents essentially MAKE you do it

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
30. OR
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

the child can elect to have them pierced when they're old enough to want it for themselves - gee, what novel concept

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
41. Come on...the pain is minimal...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

I had my foot caught in the spokes of a bike when I was 3. My Dad was riding me on the handle bars, without shoes, on his bike. I still have the scar. Don't remember the day at all.

A 1 yr old kid isn't gonna remember having get ears pierced.

Pick a more important issue to rally for.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)
46. ok we will agree to disagree
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jun 2014

some people think it's fine to stick needles into babies (PRIMARILY INTO GIRLS - why is that?) to decorate them like Christmas tress and while some find it distasteful

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
16. Oh FFS...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014

Is she hanging bowling balls from the kids ears? no.
She looks pretty with them.
A vaccination hurts a lot more but we give them to kids too.

SOME PEOPLE!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
27. I have to agree and honestly I have seen kids get them soon after birth
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:22 AM
Jun 2014

mind you it's not what I would do if I had kids but I think there are bigger things for us to outrage over than this.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
17. I think it's up to the parents.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jun 2014

That said - I think it's an unnecessary thing for a baby. I've known of at least two babies that had infections from having this done "down at the mall".

Yes, as stated above, it's just a little needle prick. But that needle prick can just as easily be done to a 13 year old, who is old enough to consent to it, than it be done to a baby who only knows that something is hurting.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
35. A large part of the piercing is done for cultural identity purposes, and 13 is a little late 2 start
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jun 2014

that. People are reacting as if this was genital mutilation.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
38. Now a senior, I have known of this practice at least since I was a teenager.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 01:07 AM
Jun 2014

My sister attended a religious school that had a number of Mexican girls as boarders. This would have been in the early 50's. These girls had pierced ears, and from that time on I always associated pierced ears with Hispanic people.

A dear friend of mine, a Canadian, was living in Venezuela in 1963, when she gave birth to a girl. The staff at the hospital wanted to pierce the infant's ears before she left the hospital, which procedure my friend succeeded in denying.

Therefore, I've always considered pierced ears a cultural thing, which didn't interest me, but was okay for those to whom it was part of the culture. No harm for those who wish it for their girls. I wouldn't want to see earrings in boys' ears as infants, though, or piercings in other places, and no way tattoos.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
40. I understand and largely agree. The thing about ear piercing is that those little girls denied
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:21 AM
Jun 2014

it in their cultures would feel awkward if not devastated. And ear piercing will 'cure' itself easily enough if desired later. Whereas in certain places, at least in the past (think Deep South), piercing anything was considered a mark of satan! My mother was a southern belle, ultra liberal for her time and disowned by her relatives for running off to marry a damnYankee Catholic, but even she couldn't bring herself to pierce her ears until a few years later. Finally she got tired of losing clip-ons and suffering the pressure they inflict, so she said to hell with that and came home one day with those pagan holes in her ear lobes. After all, she was straight line Irish American too, although her ancestors beat Dad's here by a generation; and much of Ireland clings stubbornly to parts of its pagan past - which I consider wonderful. My ears were pierced as a 13th birthday present. As we naturally blend into the American melting pot, later generations don't seem to care about old traditions at all. So they do what they want, which is only right because it is their life after all. Fortunately they still seem to want (at least) pierced ears!

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
44. No, I'm reacting as someone who knows that there have been health issues with doing this.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:12 PM
Jun 2014

Cultural identity purposes?

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
49. You are perfectly free and welcome to react as you wish. I, however, have never come across any
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jun 2014

contraindications healthwise, unless you can say fingernail clippers for instance are able to cut off chunks of flesh and therefore should be banned. Combing hair could be dangerous too, as the teeth might puncture the skin if one presses down too hard. Etc etc etc. I'd personally rather have a baby's ears pierced in the hospital, not the mall or at home. But otherwise, I personally shall remain an enthusiastic supporter of the custom.

edbermac

(15,947 posts)
29. What is cruel and tacky is having Kanye and Kim for parents!
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jun 2014

Some shrink is going to make a boatload of money off of that kid one day.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
37. This
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:37 AM
Jun 2014

Piercing the kid's ears doesn't even begin to rank on the list of tacky things Kim and Kanye have done.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
32. My cousins got their ears pieieced when they were babies
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:01 PM
Jun 2014

My mom didn't pierce mine. I was mad at her for that. I wanted to wear cute little earrings like they did but could not.

I tried three (painful) times to have them pierced, and the third time was the charm, when I was sever years old.

I wish I had then pierced as a baby, and had avoided so much hassle

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
36. I pierced both my daughters ears when they were babes. Younger than a year.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jun 2014

It's a tradition in Latin America.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
50. I am no fan of the Kardashian clan, but they are so disliked they will continue to be a target
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:50 PM
Jun 2014

for anything that might be distasteful to some.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
52. Next thing you know...
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:33 AM
Jun 2014

There'll be a scandal about painting the baby's toenails.



These stupid first world issues are the reason we haven't been visited by aliens. They think we're all crazy.

Bombero1956

(3,539 posts)
53. In Puerto Rico
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

baby girls ears are pierced at birth or shortly after birth. To me it's a matter of culture.

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