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According to the t.v. synopsis:
Valar Morghulis: Theon incites his men to action; Luwin offers advice; Brienne silences Jaime; Arya recieves a gift, Dany goes to a strange place; Jon proves himself.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)So, will that be the last of the actor that we've come to know as Jaqen H'ghar. I realize that we'll see him as the faceless man again, but I assume he'll be returning as another actor.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)She met another from Braavos before...
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Yeah, one of them entered the narrative around the same time the other exited. But other than that, I've never seen any compelling evidence other than that they're both from the same (big) city.
I'll be really disappointed if that turns out to be true.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)in the House of the Undying, though.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)If we're still talking about faceless people from Bravos, why would they go there in the house of undying.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)you have been warned. Spoilers below:
[font color=white]In the books, Dany sees a lot of visions in the House of the Undying. A few of the visions put together involve the possible implication that Jon Snow is the child of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. (So, Jon got the Stark features from Ned's sister Lyanna not Ned, and Ned must have tried to protect his sister's child from Robert by claiming it as his own, even though he humiliated new wife Catelyn by doing so. remember, Robert is obsessed with killing Targaryens.) [/font]
However, I agree with the post below that the TV viewers probably would have been lost without a lot of the backstory.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:22 PM - Edit history (1)
I knew there was something special about him, but, I didn't know enough to see the bloodlines.
However, doesn't that mean that: [font color=white]Jon Snow and Dany are related? Could that be why Ned Stark was so opposed to hunting Dany down? And did you notice that the casting of the entire Stark family is way different than in the book? Sansa and Rob are suppose to look like Tullys, (like Sansa); yet Rob looks like a dark Stark. Sean Bean looked fair headed, when he should have been dark. And Mrs. Stark-Tully should look fair, not dark. It's like the book has taken a complete genetic departure.[/font]
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)just put font color=white inside a pair of square brackets
then, when you want to turn it off, you just put /font inside the square brackets
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)and only really means anything when you have a lot of puzzle pieces that the show largely hasn't touched? Most of that theory relies on Ned's internal monologue in A Game of Thrones, and buried in so much backstory that you almost need to be looking for it to find it.
OTHOH, she did see the Iron Throne covered in snow, so...
Probably for the best that they didn't use the House of the Undying as a one-stop-prophecy-shop like in the book - I bet a ton of unspoiled tv viewers would have twigged immediately to meaning of the "amateur taxidermy" exhibit, whereas in the book, it flows by in a flood of surreal imagery and doesn't stand out as much.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I was hoping they didn't do the RW foreshadowing on TV, as it would have been a lot more obvious. I remember when I read A Storm of Swords, my mouth actually dropped open I was so surprised (and stayed open). I remember even going back and re-reading it thinking it had to be a dream - there was no way that was actually happening.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)I don't have a clue what either of you are talking about.
I'm glad now that the season ended so I can catch up. Though, I stopped reading the first book because I know I'm coming on the part where Ned Stark gets arrested and killed. He really did believe the Cersei would flee. Why did he underestimate her?
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)As for Ned, he's just compassionate and honorable to a fault. Probably the biggest mistake out of many that he made, but OTOH, it probably would have worked out alright had Littlefinger and the City Watch captain been at least honest enough to stay bribed.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Now, how did he know her name?
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Zombies! Who could ask for more?
warrior1
(12,325 posts)why did it have to be zombies!
Good ep. Can't wait till next year. True Blood in one week. Weeee!!1!!!
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I wonder what the dragon will do if I lean toward it face first?
Margaery: That neckline (or lack thereof) is a bit daring for court.
Good job on the Tyrion scenes.
Poor Sansa, humiliated before court in such a way. You could see in her smile how devastated she was.
Oh, Theon, you are such a moron.
Loved the Arya scene. I was afraid they were going to gloss over Jaqen's "death".
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Is that why she said she didn't want to go back to Winterfell?
Chan790
(20,176 posts)It's true though, never trust anybody who tells you they don't trust anybody.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I present to you this burned out slab of torture and despair.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)After they left the tunnels and found Winterfell burning and people all dead, where was the army outside of the Winterfell as well as Theon and the men who where with him?
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Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Theon gave an impassioned speech and his right hand knocked him over the head, knocked him out and said, "Let's go home."
They collected Theon, who by now is either disgraced by his family for this stupid act of loyalty, or, forget it. He's disgraced.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)how did they escape, and what happened to the army? He kept screaming about the man with the horn. Did they just let them leave with Theon? I thought Robb wanted his head? Why would the army leave the people at Winterfell with out protection? Wouldn't Maester Luwin have told them they were still alive?
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)why did Luwin nearly die alone?
Is it possible that the horn guy was actually from Theon's own men who wanted to scare him off, but Theon did just the opposite and tried to rise to the occasion? I'm not sure. I have to see that scene again.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Did they just figure to leave them chained up?
warrior1
(12,325 posts)if Robb sent men to Winterfell after he found out it had fallen to Theon. Robb did send 80 men to recapture Jamie.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Roose Bolton (a Stark bannerman) said that his bastard son Ramsay Snow would be able to get to Winterfell more quickly and that Ramsay would be happy to help. It was Ramsay's men that had Winterfell surrounded.
If you remember Bolton, he was the man that said at the Dreadfort (his castle, like the Stark's castle in Winterfell), "a naked man has few secrets, a flayed man has none" and Robb had responded that flaying had been illegal for centuries.