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Thu Feb 7, 2013, 06:49 PM

Pope Still Protecting Pedophile Priests



http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/02/04/nostra-maxima-culpa/

Andrew Sullivan posted this video in a post about the HBO documentary about the pedophile-coddling power structure of the church that excoriated the children who were raped, not their rapists. He notes -

If those of us are asked why we still believe in the salvation of Christ in the Catholic community, in the midst of all this, we do not have a good answer. All we can say is that we are, in some ways, trying to live in a parallel church, finding those many, many good priests who have been unfairly tarred by the pedophile brush, and living by one simple moral standard that the Pope himself does not agree with and has not done: if you find out someone is raping children, you call the cops.

But, for me, the most powerful moments in the documentary come from one simple fact. The four primary victims are deaf. They are grown men now and when they express themselves on film, they do so with sign and sounds of anguish and grief. One of the victims, now dead, sat down in front of a video camera and laboriously recounted every single act of abuse Father Murphy committed against him. He knew he was dying, and wanted to leave a record of the crimes and the corruption. Then in the most riveting raw footage of the film, he goes to confront the mass-rapist, whose crimes were by then beyond the statute of limitations. He finds him in the backyard. He signs and yells as coherently as a deaf person can; the priest seems utterly unmoved, telling the man he serially raped that “That’s all over now.” And disappears into his modest house, with a deaf-house-cleaner who had previously worked at St John’s. In the Catholic Church, mass rapists get retirement homes with maids. She confronts the rape victim. She keeps asking him: “Are you a Catholic?” He keeps replying that this has nothing to do with Catholicism and everything to do with rape. She just comes back at him with rapid-fire repetitions of “Are you a Catholic?” “Are you a Catholic?” “Are you a Catholic?“

It’s a question that simply tells you: do not disobey a priest; do not malign a priest; do not question a priest. And it is that deference, that lingering, profound subservience to the priestly office that also allowed this to happen. Where, after all, were the nuns at St John’s School? Did they seriously not know what was going on? Where were the parents of the deaf boys, when they warned them about Father Murphy as early as 1974? Where are we now as a church if we vaunt one of the biggest enablers of child-rape, John Paul II, to the status of sainthood without a thorough investigation of these matters?

When will we Catholics insist in the prosecution of this Pope and this hierarchy for what can only be called – given its duration and gravity and sheer scale – a crime against humanity. When will we lose the deference to a clerical elite that has become its own self-perpetuating clique of sexual dysfunction, that has lost even the most basic moral authority, that even now refuses to hold itself to account.




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RainDog Feb 2013 OP
thucythucy Feb 2013 #1
RainDog Feb 2013 #3
thucythucy Feb 2013 #4
valerief Feb 2013 #2
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #5
MichiganVote Feb 2013 #6
RainDog Feb 2013 #7
MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #8
klatu Feb 2013 #9
angryjames Feb 2013 #10

Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:18 PM

1. This is heart rending.

The sexual abuse of Deaf kids, and of kids with all manner of disabilities, is rampant, not only in the Catholic Church, but in schools, institutions, on the street, and within families.

The sad fact is that having a disability makes you far more likely to be raped or sexually abused.

We live in a very sick world.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:58 PM

3. It repulses me to see the bishop in Austin TX

claim that loss of certain clerical privileges, the garments they wear... the clothes they wear...the access they have.. is sufficient punishment for raping children.

Any organization that thinks it's above the law of the United States doesn't need to be here.

It is a crime punishable by prison for raping a child. Not retirement and you don't get to wear your fancy vestments.

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Response to RainDog (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:03 PM

4. No argument from me.

The direct perpetrators should be in prison for their crimes. Those who helped hide them should be in prison as accessories after the fact or (if the offenders raped again, after becoming known to the higher-ups) as co-conspirators and accomplices.

May the day come soon.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 08:37 PM

2. Here's a tongue twister I just made up!

How many pedophile priests did the pedophile pope protect from prosecution?

Say it 3 times fast.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 09:13 PM

5. The Catholic Church needs to read their Bible ....... Mathew 7:3-5

splinter and beam and all that

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:04 PM

6. The hierarchy of the RCC has been rife with debauchary and abuse for centuries.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 10:17 PM

7. I created a post a couple of days ago

that I deleted because I have no desire to argue with assholes. I was angry after reading about the HBO doc and the Magdalene Laundry Girls.

Sullivan is calling for something far harsher than I mentioned. Sullivan, a Catholic, is calling for prosecution for a crime against humanity - leveled at the Pope.

But, strangely, not one of them are here to heap abuse on Sullivan.

here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022315282

then, after I deleted the post, someone started a post to insult me and use a false equivalency to do so. that's here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2315545

those who did the insulting - who cares about them. but maybe it's good to see who thinks it's okay to attack someone here for asking a question that Sullivan one-upped, at the least.

they think it's okay to insult someone here but apparently not someone working under the auspices of a politically moderate news outlet. Iow, they have no capacity for discernment. Because I don't tout my "credentials," I'm fair game. That sounds a lot like that maid screaming at the deaf guy who was abused, come to think of it.

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:03 AM

8. Animal Farm...

Some humans are more superior that other humans...

1) Wall Street Bankers
2) Catholic Church Hierarchy under this Pope.

Do not disobey either one, or you turn into Greece or you go to the designated "Hell" as defined by animal farm doctrine.

Yeah.... we're definitely fucked on this one...

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:12 AM

9. A crime against humantiy . . . or just the tip of the iceberg

Those who feel this massive pedophile priest scandal of the catholic church is a crime against humanity are of course right, but that crime pales to insignificance in the light of a greater question: could two thousand years of scholastic exegesis, tradition and the faith of 2 billion 'Christians' be wholly in error? . . . And no longer a rhetorical question for mud slinging between atheist and religious, we are on the threshold of finding out! And the foundations of the church could easily crumble to dust!

The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the moral teachings of Christ is published on the web. Radically different from anything else we know of from theology or history, this new teaching is predicated upon a precise, predefined, and predictable experience of transcendent omnipotence and called 'the first Resurrection' in the sense that the Resurrection of Jesus was intended to demonstrate Gods' willingness to reveal Himself and intervene directly into the natural world for those obedient to His will, paving the way for access, by faith, to the power of divine Will and ultimate proof!

Thus 'faith' becomes an act of trust in action, the search to discover this direct individual intervention into the natural world by omnipotent power that confirms divine will, law, command and covenant, which at the same time, realigns our flawed human moral compass with the Divine, "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries." So like it or no, a new religious teaching, testable by faith, meeting all Enlightenment criteria of evidence based causation and definitive proof now exists. Nothing short of an intellectual, moral and religious revolution is getting under way. To test or not to test, that is the question? More info at http://www.energon.org.uk,
http://soulgineering.com/2011/05/22/the-final-freedoms/

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Response to RainDog (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:42 PM

10. Sign my petition

Feel free to sign my petition. We should not be recognizing the Vatican as a sovereign state.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/withdraw-us-recognitions-vatican-sovereign-state-light-sexual-abuse-children/98np3Pp1

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