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Gay Marriage, Weed, and Emergency Managers (Original Post) rdubwiley Nov 2012 OP
well said. carry on. navarth Nov 2012 #1
Refreshing analysis and well delivered. Would like to hear more of that. freshwest Nov 2012 #2
MI Proposal 2 to preserve collective bargaining lost too Dorn Nov 2012 #3
Thanks for a good summary and about Maine... drynberg Nov 2012 #4
I'm actually quite dissappointed that 2 and 3 failed in MI jimlup Nov 2012 #5

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Refreshing analysis and well delivered. Would like to hear more of that.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:44 PM
Nov 2012

Shows a good comprehension of how things developed. Thanks.

Dorn

(523 posts)
3. MI Proposal 2 to preserve collective bargaining lost too
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:49 PM
Nov 2012

It is good that proposal 1 failed but I am concerned that the Michigan legislature will pass a so called Right to work law now that proposal 2 failed. Even though Democrats gained seats in the Michigan house the Republicans may still try to enact such a law.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
4. Thanks for a good summary and about Maine...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:08 PM
Nov 2012

We passed, after 3 failed attempts, to get 53% of the voters to say it's ok to marry the one you love. 47% "holdouts" may also have been "small government and freedom folks"...yeah, well. Maryland and Maine share the role as the only two states to have ever passed by the general voters, the right to marry the one ya love. I'm straight, but it's about friggin' time to let freedom be. And about Michigan, wow. Emergency Managers pushing out officals who were voted in fair and square is WRONG in so many ways. Good for the Michiganders who threw this out, and as for the Mich Gov, he's next.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
5. I'm actually quite dissappointed that 2 and 3 failed in MI
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:54 AM
Nov 2012

I couldn't convince my wife on proposal 1. She voted for it. She is convinced that "we have to do something." What I can't convince her of is that "doing something" and the anti-democratic takeover of the emergency manager law are quite different. Her response is then "well then they could have elected better people." Her claim is that it is "still democracy because they elected the state government." I think she has accepted fascism and doesn't realize it.

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