The Mexican Mormon War (Drug Cartels vs. Mormons Full Length)

[LeftyMom]

[bbgrunt]

1. interesting. thanks for posting.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Very informative, thanks! (K&R)

[JDPriestly]

3. Ugh! What a bunch!

If you watch how the Mexican people look at the Mormons amongst them -- utter contempt seems to me.

[marble falls]

9. Yeah, ugh, Mexicans bigoted about fellow Mexicans over religion.

[JDPriestly]

12. Not Mexicans bigoted about religion. Mexicans disgusted with the way the non-Mexican

intruders who have not tried to really become a part of Mexican society act like they are superior, but drink too much, kill just like the drug traffickers and are generally obnoxious.

I could care less about Mormons or non-Mormons, but if people came into my neighborhood and acted like the Mormons in that movie, I would be pretty annoyed. And I could see on the faces of the Mexican people who are culturally Mexican how disgusted they were.

I did not hear one expression of compassion on the part of the Mormons in the movie toward others who are not Mormon and live in Mexico. It was all just nasty arrogance.

[Iggo]

14. Those Mormons ARE Mexicans.

[JDPriestly]

15. They are viewed by the Mexicans around them as intruders. That is clear from the video.

[marble falls]

16. Sort of the way folks don't like second generation Mexicans who don't Americanize, right?

[Iggo]

18. That may be.

But you were calling the brown people Mexicans and the white people Mormons.

(I'm not looking to attach malice to what you were saying. Just trying to correct a common mistake.)

[JDPriestly]

19. I was looking at their lifestyles and hearing the information that

meant that the Mormon colony separates itself from the community around it. Appears to me that the Mormon community is transplanted America.

What I saw was an arrogant lifestyle. I have lived in foreign countries. You want to be a part of the country you are living in. You want to give to it and improve. It did not appear to me that the community portrayed in that video was giving to or improving the community in which they were living.

I was disgusted. I would not want anyone in my community living like that around me.

The crime in that part of Mexico is terrible. And it seemed to me that the group in the Mormon community was adding to the violence and seeking special protection. It's not a life worthy of human beings.

[Iggo]

21. I get that.

I'm just telling you:

The brown people in the story are Mexicans.
The white people in the story are Mexicans.

Have a good night.

[marble falls]

17. You'd better look again, they identify as Mexicans and they show empathy toward other Mexicans....

in the same situation.

[JDPriestly]

20. Empathy-- shutting themselves up in a community that they guard -- like a private

gated property. Getting special protection from the police and armed men. That is not what I call empathy. Empathy would be calling for a halt in the transport and sales of guns to Mexico and drugs to the US.

Empathy would be caring for the many widows and orphans left by the drug trade.

Asking the US to legalize drugs assumes that would end the drug cartels. No. We could never legalize drugs to that point, and we never will. Kidnappings can still be used as a means to extort money even without the drug trade.

[marble falls]

22. You don't know Mexico.

[Whovian]

4. Fascinating. Thanks for the link.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

5. They must be allowing the cartels to golf

for free in exchange for not slaughtering them like everyone else.

Yep, that must be it.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

6. Can I say it?

As much as I watched of this, reminds me of "Breaking Bad."

[midnight]

7. I'm with Mitt's cousin.... Stop the drug war and legalize Marijuana...

[marble falls]

8. Thought just another lefty half assed "documentry" and watched for the unitentional humor ....

aspect. Wow! Was I ever wrong. Well done, well produced and I got educated in spite of my very low expectations. Thank-you leftymum for putting this up and the opportunity to show myself again how wrong I can be. Great stuff.

[april]

10. thanks

[SamKnause]

11. Mormons in Mexico

Very interesting.

Thanks for posting the video.

[Iggo]

13. Great show.

Thanks for posting.

[KurtNYC]

23. So they didn't pay a ransom in the first kidnapping

but in the second one mentioned here they paid $1 mil and it came from LDS in the US ? They don't explain the shift in strategy although it sounds like they had leverage and help from the Mexican gov with the first one so perhaps they have lost that leverage.