TYT Analyzes: Why are so many Democrats "With Her"?

[liberalnarb]

[antigop]

1. I don't have to watch the video. I've posted this many times.

1) They benefit from the status quo.
2) They haven't been burned (yet) by the status quo.
3) They want a female prez sooo badly.
4) They do not understand the real problems facing this country (thank you, MSM!)
5) Some combination of the above.

[liberalnarb]

2. You probably should watch the video.

They make some interesting points.

[Silver_Witch]

3. I have been a progressive for 42 years

And the Democratic party used to be progressive. We were the party who believed in change not the "status quo".

I will not support a democratic candidate who is NOT progressive, who believes in war, who takes advice fro Kissinger or who has to evolve to believe two people in love can marry. And the party will not bring me " to heel!"

[liberalnarb]

4. The DLC fucked our party.

Attacking Democratic candidates for NOT supporting the war in Iraq is what REALLY put me over the edge.

The DLC gave strong support for the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Prior to the war, Will Marshall co-signed a letter to President Bush from the Project for the New American Century endorsing military action against Saddam Hussein. During the 2004 Primary campaign the DLC attacked Presidential candidate Howard Dean as an out-of-touch liberal because of Dean's anti-war stance. The DLC dismissed other critics of the Iraq invasion such as filmmaker Michael Moore as members of the "loony left".[14] Even as domestic support for the Iraq War plummeted in 2004 and 2005, Marshall called upon Democrats to balance their criticism of Bush's handling of the Iraq War with praise for the president's achievements and cautioned "Democrats need to be choosier about the political company they keep, distancing themselves from the pacifist and anti-American fringe.

[freebrew]

5. This is what got me:

" praise for the president's achievements" and with a straight face, no less.

* did nothing but steal from the people. $$$ and the lives of our young.

[GreatGazoo]

36. We are forced to organize around actual issues rather than around people

Sanders success has been due to championing issues rather than demanding loyalty to a brand and a blank check.

[Silver_Witch]

37. You are absolutely correct Great Gazoo

Perfect statement....

[stopbush]

6. I'm sure the 27 people who warch TYT regularly

will find that interesting.

[Geronimoe]

7. Add failure in critical thinking skills

Attaching the messenger is a failure in logic.

[stopbush]

8. Not in this case as the messenger is biased.

And that bias is well known and even applauded.

[liberalnarb]

10. 27? You mean 5 times the size of Chris Matthews audience?

[stopbush]

11. Really? C'mon. A joke's a joke, but that's ridiculous.

[zebonaut]

9. Hillary Clinton. Same old same old. Tepid slow incremental change.

[stopbush]

12. Bernie Sanders. Same old, same old. If you can't get elected to the office, you get nothing done.

Some people can't even get nominated to run for the office.

[liberalnarb]

13. Considering he won 14 elections I think he proved he can get elected into office.

[stopbush]

14. Not the presidency.

That ship has sailed, and it's called the USS Hillary.

[liberalnarb]

15. HA! He's down by 277 delegates and there is still plenty to go around.

[stopbush]

16. "It's only a flesh wound!"

I feel your pain.

[liberalnarb]

17. The ones who felt the pain were those brutally killed in Iraq.

[stopbush]

18. Back-bencher Bernie will be returning to the Senate

where he can continue to divert million of dollars being wasted in the boondoggle F35 program to VT.

[aurelius2112]

19. Not like Hillary who steers $165 Billion of Arms Sales to Foreign Countries to keep the Peace!

Dig deeper than the mass media koolaid you are drinking...... so sad to see this in action.... blinding of the masses.....guess Hillary's smoke and mirrors work quite well on people who don't think past the veiled lies she spues......

read up on your great candidate.....if you are on the Clinton Foundation List - you may be right to vote for her!!!

Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/hillary-clinton-foundation-state-arms-deals

Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department
http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

You can't hide behind the simple facts, that she has been horse trading with Big Money for decades.

She is qualified, smart and creepishly evil in how efficiently she panders to anyone at any time.
Ever notice how she started saying very similar "Bernie" positions, when he started to make a surge?
SNL did....... and made a skit for you to enjoy!!!

Hillary Clinton morphs into Bernie Sanders in SNL skit

[stopbush]

20. Because the non-mass-biases-open-for-all-to-see media

is always so reliable.

I got over that fiction by reading all the ludicrous takes on the JFK assassination.

[liberalnarb]

23. Representing the people of the state he was elected to represent??

HOW DARE HE!!

[stopbush]

24. Hypocrite Sanders engages in the same pork barrel

politics he decries in others.

And all the BSers can say about his hypocrisy is "everyone else does it."

[liberalnarb]

25. If you're talking about the F35s then no, its not because "everyone else does it"

its because the F35 was already built so it had to go somewhere. Bernie decided it could go to the Vermont National Guard.

[stopbush]

27. Here:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/bernie-sanders-loves-this-1-trillion-war-machine.html

[liberalnarb]

30. He had it placed in an city's airport for the National Guard.

It was already essentially built.

[stopbush]

32. So that makes it alright to Sanders fans?

So, if a state legislature passes anti-gay laws, it's OK to support businesses that discriminate because hey, a law was passed and is in place?

[liberalnarb]

33. No. Its kind of offensive that you compared putting a plane in an airport to

discriminating against LGBTQ Americans.

[stopbush]

34. You miss the point entirely.

Try again.

[liberalnarb]

35. Ok, I'll try again.

You were comparing apples to oranges. Better?

[bjo59]

31. Why the military reference in this context?

[shakedown1970]

26. Are you one of the paid Hillboughts?

[stopbush]

29. 12 posts in two years.

Welcome to this year at DU.

[aurelius2112]

21. Guess that makes all of us conspiracy creators.......

Anytime any person goes against what the general public has taken as the truth, they are immediately labeled as a conspiracy artist.
Of course we can always believe what we want to, since perception is in the eye of the beholder.
However, when accusations and possibly indictments come up on anyone, it should make most people take a second look at their first perception.

People's judgements only show their true character.
True self awareness comes from analyzing your own perceptions and hopefully either validating them or questioning them to change.

Be open to the facts and defend with facts.
Hillary is in with Big Money period.
Bernie is not period.

The establishment (aka 1%) would prefer Hillary over Bernie any day.
They know her and can work with her.

We might be able to get a few democratic issues to the front with Hillary, but we will also get the same ol defense spending and war mongering we have all come to detest.

I only hope you can look back at this time and reflect on your position, when the sh*t hits the fan in the next few years.

Peace!

[sulphurdunn]

22. I am a democrat.

My parents were democrats. The first democrat I voted for was Hubert Humphrey. My father was a member of the ILWU. I remember going hungry when the longshoremen went on strike for decent wages and working conditions in 1960. I have never cast a vote for anyone but a democrat. I have never given political donations to or pounded the pavement for any other party, and as God is my witness, I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. I voted for her husband. I should have learned my lesson then. If there is an afterlife that requires me to give an account of my life, having voted for this cynical, opportunistic, neoconservative, corporatist warhawk will not be part of that confession.

[DebbieCDC]

28. Bravo to ^THIS^ #22