*BREAKING* Bernie Nets 568 Delegates in Largest Nevada County - HUGE!!

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Hillary Clinton may have come out on top in February, but she didn't win all of Nevada's delegates. That's why Bernie Sanders’ supporters had to make their presence known on Saturday, to claim their portion of the delegate pie.

added link to assist with info in video:
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/02/sanders-wins-most-delegates-at-clark-county-conven/

added a link from DU with more info
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511634390

[Old Crow]

1. A sentence or two of explanation by the poster would help a lot.

Just watched this and I have no idea why this is "huge." The TV news story depicts what happened as part of a routine process. Will view other posts on DU now to try to determine what, if anything, is big news about this.

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2. apologies, I added a link

[Old Crow]

3. Thank you. And my apologies...

for being a little slow. I find the state-level caucus procedures very confusing.

One question I'm still struggling with (never had a coffee today, and I'm regretting it now): Does this affect the delegate count for the Democratic nomination? On February 20, Hillary got 20 delegates, Bernie got 15. I'm guessing those numbers are unchanged for now--but may change at some point?

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4. I believe it will

I believe this is the same situation as Louisiana where Cruz ended up taking Louisiana delegates from Trump, albeit a different process. 'Mr. Rubio dropped out, and under Louisiana delegate rules, those pledged to Mr. Rubio became unbound — meaning they were free to choose whatever remaining candidates were left in the race. Looks like they chose Mr. Cruz.'

In this case, delegates elected to go to the convention came in less numbers than they were voted, and so changes to delegate votes will occur. I don't think maps will show a change in color or 'win' column, but someone mentioned that numbers of delegates may be higher for Sanders than for Clinton from Nevada by a few in the end.

[Old Crow]

5. Thanks. I hope that's the case.

In this nomination process, it's looking like every last delegate is going to be crucial.

Go, Bernie!

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6. quick update

found this also:

Although Clinton had more delegates than Sanders after the caucus election, Sanders walked away with more wins on Saturday because either her delegates didn’t all show up for the county conventions or they changed their votes. Alternates are able to vote in the place of delegates who don’t show up.

It’s unclear at this time exactly what this means statewide or how many extra delegates Sanders will pick up from the state convention. There are 35 delegates total for Nevada and 25 are rewarded proportionally based on caucus results. Twelve are awarded through county conventions. Sanders may pick up as few as just one or two extra delegates, or it could give Sanders as many as 10 extra delegates in the national convention.

and another...

It’s unclear at this time exactly how many new delegates Sanders is picking up from Nevada, since delegates are unbound until the state convention, but he definitely won some today.

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I think the answer is, there is a bit of cheering going on at Sander's headquarters

[Old Crow]

7. Nice. Thank you. :) (N/T)

[Mark 750]

8. Nevada Clark County Democratic Convention - Las Vegas...

My wife and I were Bernie delegates here and it was a long 11 hrs. Bernie crowd was very enthused and loud. In the end as recorded Bernie had 2964 delegates present to Hillary's 2386. This translates to Bernie's 1611 delegates to the state convention to Hillary's 1297. The crowd went wild. It looks like that in the end if all holds up around the state, Bernie will pick up more delegates to the national convention than Hillary and realistically win the state over Hillary.

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9. wow, that's a long day!

thanks for the update and for putting in those hours, to you and your wife



appreciate the update as well, as the story kind of unfolded quickly at the end of the day (obviously not quickly for you! LOL)

[Old Crow]

10. OMG, that is fantastic news! :)

Thanks for checking in with your on-the-scenes reporting. Great job in supporting Bernie, too. I appreciate your hard work!

[SunSeeker]

11. Looks like Bernie is picking up delegating stealing dirty tricks from Ted Cruz.

As reported by one DUer there:

There was an email that went out that said if you checked in early (Friday night)...

You wouldn't have to go into the convention as you would still be counted among the pledged delegates for your candidate. I heard a lot of Clinton's folks likely fell for that and didn't show up. The line for early check in (on Friday evening) was about a 2 + hour wait that started at 5pm PST and was supposed to go till 9pm PST. If some of those people were never told, they might have simply not come to the convention today. I got the same email, but since I want to try to go all the way to the National Convention, the Misses and I attended. Glad we did. Dirty tricks and all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110789068#post5


Sounds like the shit Ted Cruz pulled to take the majority of delegates in Louisiana even though he lost that state by a wide margin.

It is alarming to see Sanders supporters cheering what amounts to election fraud and the subversion of democracy. Hillary carried Clark County, a very diverse county, by 10 points.

[PoliticalMalcontent]

12. Would love to see the email.

Would ask in the Clinton forum, but they don't take kindly to questions.

If there is an email that should be thrown out there for all to see. I'd love to see who sent it.

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13. article says it was from the county party

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/01/smooth-sailing-or-political-malfunction-will-clark/

On the Facebook event page for the convention, a number of people raised concerns about an email they received from the county party, which told delegates that if they check-in and register Friday night at the SEIU Union hall, they do not need to attend the convention Saturday.

“If you check-in or register as a delegate on Friday April 1st it is not required for you to be present at the convention on Saturday April 2nd,” the email said. “If you check-in or register as an alternate on Friday, April 1st it is required for you to be at the convention on Saturday April 2nd no later than 12:00 Noon.”

The Facebook commenters said they had received conflicting information. They previously were told they would need to attend the convention all day. They encouraged fellow delegates to attend Saturday and stay for the entire event to be sure their votes count.

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I'm guessing the return address would indicate where the email came from, so if you find one online, would be great to post it, and I'll look as well

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Since all of the delegates I believe were required to check in on the 1st, it would seem they would be told to come the next day by their associated Hillary or Bernie sign in staff.

[PoliticalMalcontent]

14. Thanks for the response.

That's pretty fucked. Intentional or misunderstanding? Seems like somebody is going to be in trouble, and rightfully so.

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15. you're welcome

I think they should probably allow any person who checked in on the 1st and didn't come the next day to place an absentee vote now, as long as they checked in on April 1st.

I'm thinking it is unlikely that there are many that would go all that way to check in on the 1st and would not have been willing to come the next day as well, so it would be fair in my eyes. Neither side should benefit from mistakes of the system. If Bernie loses delegates from correcting the mistake, so be it -- would be better than not winning fair and square.

Even kids know that.