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geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:22 PM Jun 2012

Morning Joe can't think of a unionized company. They must not have heard of GE. You know the boss

The Morning Joe crew was on an anti-union tear this morning, claiming the union label on a company means "sell." Mika Brzezinski went so far as to say of unions: "They cripple the system that makes a company work." Collectively, the journalists on Morning Joe couldn't name a single "successful" unionized company.
This says more about their qualifications to discuss public policy and labor relations than it says about unions. To pick just one obvious example, UPS is unionized -- and the company made more than $3 billion last year. That's "billion" with a "b," and those are profits, not revenues.
Oh, what the heck, let's take one more example. GE is one of the world's largest companies; in 2006, its revenues were greater than the gross domestic products of 80 percent of UN nations. The company made more than $18 billion in 2008 -- again, billion with a b, and again, those are profits, not revenue. All that despite (or, perhaps, because of) the fact that 13 different unions represent GE workers.
Oh, and GE owns NBC-Universal, which owns MSNBC, which pays Joe Scarborough a handsome salary (and the unionized workers who help get his show on the air considerably less.)
Does Joe Scarborough think NBC and GE are not "successful" companies? Does Mika Brzezinski think the unionized workers she no doubt interacts with every day are crippling her ability to do her job, or her employer's ability to be successful?
Full article here: http://mediamatters.org/blog/200906030009


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Morning Joe can't think of a unionized company. They must not have heard of GE. You know the boss (Original Post) geefloyd46 Jun 2012 OP
Why do the union workers on that show sit quietly while this crap is spewed? rfranklin Jun 2012 #1
Maybe they will, elleng Jun 2012 #3
Would have been priceless ThoughtCriminal Jun 2012 #5
There's another little company called AT&T Gman Jun 2012 #2
From now on whenever I turn to msnbc and they're on I'll hit the mute button. libinnyandia Jun 2012 #4
Airlines. All of them have at least some unionized labor groups. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #6
I kinda gave up on those morning blah-blah shows. MADem Jun 2012 #7
Except GE doesn't own NBC Universal anymore SoCalNative Jun 2012 #8
I believe GE still owns a piece of NBC geefloyd46 Jun 2012 #9
Do TV preformers have a union like film actors do EC Jun 2012 #10
I thought it was AFTRA, which merged with SAG...but my info may be out of date... CTyankee Jun 2012 #11
People never hear this about Unions Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #12
Why do you waste your time watching morning joe, yortsed snacilbuper Jun 2012 #13
For at least the liaRs get denounced somewhere, maybe. Amonester Jun 2012 #15
Another unionized company 4lbs Jun 2012 #14
And they get shit DONE! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #16
True. However, it has a little downside sometimes. 4lbs Jul 2012 #17
I'd like to hear the true story, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2012 #18
Me too sounds el stinko. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #19
Not that many GE plants are union.... 4bucksagallon Jul 2012 #20
Say, Joe, why not ask the guys pointing cameras at you? JHB Jul 2012 #21
Boeing Company is unionized, at least in Wash. state. lumpy Jul 2012 #22
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. Why do the union workers on that show sit quietly while this crap is spewed?
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jun 2012

They should cut his mike and take over the show.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
5. Would have been priceless
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jun 2012

if they had just screwed with the tint to turn him green and "Dutch Angled" the set.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
6. Airlines. All of them have at least some unionized labor groups.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jun 2012

Pilots at all major airlines except JetBlue belong to a union. I guess Joe doesn't fly much, or maybe he doesn't want to entrust his life to a bunch of union thugs like Captain Sullenberger, the guy who landed the A320 in the Hudson River and saved the lives of 140 people.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. I kinda gave up on those morning blah-blah shows.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:58 PM
Jun 2012

I will catch The View (which comes on at eleven in my time zone) because I am often either plunked in front of my TV or someone else's when that show comes on--also, the end of that show means it's time for lunch!!

That is pretty stupid, though, that they couldn't name a successful company! Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest host that train wreck!

geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
9. I believe GE still owns a piece of NBC
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

I know Comcast has come in in a big way and are probably the majority share holder.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. People never hear this about Unions
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:32 AM
Jun 2012

All we hear about is the management version of a Union making demands. On the other side of the coin a Union promises management to provide a trustworthy workforce that will produce a product up to specs, on time and within budget.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
13. Why do you waste your time watching morning joe,
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:21 AM
Jun 2012

apparently he don't know what he is talking about,or worse yet,lying!

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
15. For at least the liaRs get denounced somewhere, maybe.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012

So their obviously destructive propaganda may backfire on them some day...

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
14. Another unionized company
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jun 2012

Another unionized company:

UPS

"What can brown do for you?"

All the drivers belong to a union.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
16. And they get shit DONE!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jun 2012

Never have a problem with UPS. The driver is a regular and knows how to get packages delivered. Fedex? Not so much. If I get something sent Fedex I know I'm driving to the facility.

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
17. True. However, it has a little downside sometimes.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jul 2012

The UPS driver that services the store I work at says that being in a union also makes it extremely difficult to remove a bad driver.

He related an instance where a driver almost ran a car off the road because the UPS driver was having a bad day and had a bout of road rage. He said the police were even called to try to find this guy after the person that was almost run off had called them.

That UPS driver was simply put on two weeks suspension and then let back in as a driver. UPS wanted to fire him but the union wouldn't allow it.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
19. Me too sounds el stinko.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:31 AM
Jul 2012

And I agree with the union that "almost" running someone off the road should not be a cause for loss of employment.

Smells like bullshit.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
20. Not that many GE plants are union....
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jul 2012

I worked for over 25 years and retired from a GE plant that was non-union. When the union negotiated their contract we would get a percentage of what the union plants workers got, still good money, but the downside was that many of the other bennies in the union contract also did not apply to us non-union workers. We had no one to fight for us against management decisions. So we had a employee set up "grievance" committee, that we had to do our own paperwork and fight our own battles with management. If I remember correctly there were 5 employees and 2 managers on each "grievance" committee and even though one would think the employees had the advantage in this situation........ well management could overrule the committee decision. If they did not agree then they could send the dispute to corporate and they were the final arbiters in the dispute. It is not fun fighting with management I can attest to that.
Forgot to add that only about 25% of GE plants were union at that time probably less now....... NAFTA.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
22. Boeing Company is unionized, at least in Wash. state.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jul 2012

Workers should have the right to unionize. The only protection workers have.

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