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mmonk

(52,589 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:39 PM Nov 2015

Why I still think Bernie is the only candidate we have that could make inroads in the South

Yes, we had the solid south at one point. Yes, my native south is racist. Yes, in some respects, FDR was racist. But what about a new deal type of Democrat that wasn't racist? You know, like Johnson or JFK? How can we counter economic injustice today? Just my two cents in posting this again. Have a great evening.

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Why I still think Bernie is the only candidate we have that could make inroads in the South (Original Post) mmonk Nov 2015 OP
Yep, I can see them lining up to vote for COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #1
FDR was from New York. mmonk Nov 2015 #6
My Mom was from deep Georgia and never voted Republican COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #13
Your mom was different from my dad I guess. mmonk Nov 2015 #14
Yep. And, unfortunately there are a whole lot COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #15
Possible. Better yet, disavow the gun ban discussions on DU. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #2
Well, he certainly has quite a few republican supporters.... Walk away Nov 2015 #3
First he needs to get above 17% in the south FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #4
If most of them can be republicans and Libertarians he might almost get there! Walk away Nov 2015 #7
R's are hurting economically too. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #12
Too bad we can't use that word that begins with d and means not thinkng straight. upaloopa Nov 2015 #5
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #8
I cannot answer that question. mmonk Nov 2015 #9
I can't speak for the AA community but I may have one possible reason. upaloopa Nov 2015 #11
But the white lady saying vote for me is the ticket. mmonk Nov 2015 #16
+1. And from Chicago, IL. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #18
She was a high school kid when she was upaloopa Nov 2015 #19
GET OFF rhe false hood train. She was a teenager then, like about 50 years ago. trueblue2007 Nov 2015 #22
. mmonk Nov 2015 #10
Thank you for posting this. jjewell Nov 2015 #17
You're welcome. mmonk Nov 2015 #20
Native of the south here too. cwydro Nov 2015 #21
Clinton surely wouldn't either in my opinion. mmonk Nov 2015 #23
BTW, I hung out with these guys back in the 70's when they worked for tips mmonk Nov 2015 #24
I wish.... KoKo Nov 2015 #25

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
13. My Mom was from deep Georgia and never voted Republican
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 06:05 PM
Nov 2015

either UNTIL LBJ and the Civil Rights Act. Then the solidly Democratic South became the solidy Republican South overnight and hasn't looked back since.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
12. R's are hurting economically too.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

Yes, Bernie is far more progressive on social issues than Hillary or their R candidates, but I'm sure that some of them would be willing overlook that if he is able to address their 'bread and butter' issues.

That is why he gets R support in Vermont. In fact, I seem to recall reading somewhere that he routinely gets 25% of them.

Rural R's in the NE are slightly different than those in the south (they are generally not very religious, for example) but I don't think that would hurt him either. Many of those bible thumper types are supportive of Jewish people.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Too bad we can't use that word that begins with d and means not thinkng straight.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

"I still think Bernie is the only candidate we have that could make inroads in the South"

Why hasn't he made great inroads in the AA Dem community in the South? My guess that would come before White Repubs.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
9. I cannot answer that question.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

Surely he isn't against justice for any minority community. Maybe you can answer it.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
11. I can't speak for the AA community but I may have one possible reason.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 05:09 PM
Nov 2015

I am not saying this as a derogatory thing so please don't alert me.

Bernie is an old White man telling Black people what is best for them. Along with that he hasn't identified with the Black community lately. I know he marched with Dr King. But as the song goes, "what have you done for me lately."

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
19. She was a high school kid when she was
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:52 PM
Nov 2015

a Goldwater girl. She liked that he was different but she took the side of Lyndon Johnson in a debate and has been a Democrat after.
People think for themselves even AA folks if you don't know it
Of course you were only trying to score a couple of points on a board so you can be excused.

trueblue2007

(17,240 posts)
22. GET OFF rhe false hood train. She was a teenager then, like about 50 years ago.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:17 AM
Nov 2015

CRAP conspiracy statements like yours make me laugh.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. Native of the south here too.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 04:49 PM
Nov 2015

I'm still undecided, but I disagree.

No way in hell would Bernie win the south.

I love that song however!

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
23. Clinton surely wouldn't either in my opinion.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:52 AM
Nov 2015

The south is rightwing propaganda central when it comes to her. However, if enough debates were allowed, he could make inroads. Most would probably occur after the primary though.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
24. BTW, I hung out with these guys back in the 70's when they worked for tips
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:26 AM
Nov 2015

every summer at the Bowery in Myrtle Beach. There are pictures of myself and Randy Owen at my lake house.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
25. I wish....
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

I tend to think the Southern Repubs will go with Trump or Carson if they manage to stay in. The Evangelicals definitely love Carson and they still have so much power.

On the Dem side I wonder what will happen if Hillary is the nominee and people begin to realize that Bill will be in the White House. How older voting, non-Evangelical white Dems feel about Bill (remembering his past history) might come into play. In that case who will they vote for? I still can't understand the black voters love of the Clintons given their policies that we now know were harmful to the country with the all the deregulation they supported setting the stage for the Income Inequality, Media & Corporate Control of our lives and Wall Street starting down the road to the Financial Crisis all finished off by Bush II. Don't get me wrong, I was a huge Clinton fan and worked to get him elected. But, his DLC policies didn't turn out the way we thought and the aftermath has caused alot of pain for many people and the country. And, yet Hillary's numbers among black voters are very high so I assume they must have felt Bill's deregulation policies were a good thing.

If we have another financial meltdown I think Bernie could get support. But, without more debates it will probably hard for him to get the deep South support he would need unless the voting white dems and independents decide that Hillary just isn't for them. And, who knows, there may be many black voters who just aren't being counted who want someone besides Clinton II who would support him on his policies for reform.



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