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Too many times, we forget the lessons learned. Not to be a broken record, but the 45th anniversary of Kent State is way too important to be forgotten, whether you recall it or not. Lessons should have been learned then, but they weren't, and I fear we're headed for more disasters. This video is really good, if the pain it shows can ever be said to be good.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)sadly, gunning down American citizens is nothing new.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)thanks for posting.
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)in California protesting when we heard about this--------the entire community was outraged to say the least.
"The Kent State shootings (also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre)] occurred at Kent State University in the US city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.
Some of the students who were shot had been protesting the Cambodian Campaign, which President Richard Nixon announced during a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.
There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of four million students, and the event further affected public opinionat an already socially contentious timeover the role of the United States in the Vietnam War.
In 2008, Kent State University announced plans to construct a May 4 Visitors' Center in a room in Taylor Hall. The center was officially opened in May 2013, on the anniversary of the shootings"
My generation will never forget
captainarizona
(363 posts)I remember hearing about it on the car radio. Just like today the right wingers thought it was great until saigon was renamed ho chi minh city! By the way I have written a screenplay about how another kent state shooting could happen today. At my web site: thealamoisavenged.com please read it and tell me what you think.
byronius
(7,394 posts)They were all profoundly affected. Mark Mothersbaugh has said it was the spark that founded the band.
This event was and is truly powerful. The later facts concerning the plainclothes agitators that triggered a planned execution along with actions taken by COINTELPRO against Hoffman and others point to the core of a paranoid and violent element ensconced within the very wiring of our system that were acting out primate routines from three million years ago.
Remember the agent provocateur found in their ranks by the cookie-baking peace group a few years ago? I think it was in Fahrenheit 911. It's the same stuff. Paranoia and violence informing civil authority. Scary and bad and why are we so slow on the uptake? None of it protects anything.
They'll do anything, are still doing anything, and it damages everything around them, including their own lives.
Thank you for reminding me.
RVN VET
(492 posts)RVN VET
(492 posts)is the actual rooting for the National Guard and the expressed wishes of many Americans (non-college folks) that the act be repeated on campuses everywhere -- and go further. And I'll never forget the comments by the most corrupt and vile Vice President the US has ever been stained with:"Violence begets violence." As if student protests of an insane war that killed over 50,000 Americans and maimed nearly a quarter of a million more were anything more than the generally peaceful expression of generally; as if the students weren't the children of America; as if the demand for peace -- and not the murder of American students and the rape of a Country that never posed or pretended to pose a threat to the U.S. -- was the real danger to our Country.
The mangled efforts of the Government's efforts to "investigate" itself over the Kent State murders is well detailed here: http://www.projectcensored.org/kent-state-was-it-about-civil-rights-or-%E2%80%A8murdering-student-protesters/ Evidence the authors dug up suggests, very strongly, that the murders were initiated by an agent provacateur working for the FBI.
I recommend it as a good starting point, not only for the truth about Kent State, but the truth about the Government's ongoing contempt for anti-war protests in general. What killed 4 kids at Kent State is still alive and well in Government today, and it may only be a matter of time and circumstance before it is repeated in spades. Think Occupy.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I will never forget "The Day the 60's Died". Why did PBS select to air a documentary with a slant? The primary narrator's voice was that of Nixon aide Pat Buchanan? Pat's remarks included his demonic chuckle with "Nixon won in 72" as a result of creating a division within the US on Viet Nam. Protesters, especially students, were painted as the enemies of "freedom, American Exceptionalism", by the hounds of war.
Members of the Nixon administration, the White House Press and its media lackeys, the Governor of Ohio, the Head of the National Guard and many citizens of the US were complaisance in the cover up. Death by firing squad was excessive for the crime of burning down a military institution on public institutional property. There is no proof those murdered had any involvement in the crime.
Until someone says they regret what happened, how can I forgive them?