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SpaceX CRS-6 First Stage lands on ASDS Barge and then falls overboard (Original Post) El Supremo Apr 2015 OP
Note to self: Buy bigger Magnets. jtuck004 Apr 2015 #1
Not for nothing, but NASA's goofed a few... Cooley Hurd Apr 2015 #2
Remember some of those from elementary school. It was dreary. First one we cheered was Shepard. freshwest Apr 2015 #15
Well crap.. A couple more tries and they will stick that landing. LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #3
I thought so too. bvar22 Apr 2015 #9
has anyone invented onethatcares Apr 2015 #4
Makes sense to me. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #7
ah, so they do have those things onethatcares Apr 2015 #8
Yep. Independent contractor is always the way to go. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #12
Parachutes might give the wind too much say in where it lands. tclambert Apr 2015 #21
Silly me, it thought that it was falling down because of a malfunction drm604 Apr 2015 #5
A private sector rocket? It must've been because of all the government regulations. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2015 #6
was it made by Acme Corp central scrutinizer Apr 2015 #10
Hah! (You win.) nt TrollBuster9090 Apr 2015 #25
Althought, I guess the DUCK DODGERS cartoon is more apt in this case! TrollBuster9090 Apr 2015 #27
Government regulations? DeSwiss Apr 2015 #11
Please don't make me have to turn the sarcasm indicator back on, it's a waste of electricity. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2015 #26
Came in a tidbit too fast. Elon will NAIL it next time zebonaut Apr 2015 #13
I agree. Daemonaquila Apr 2015 #17
Looks like it. Jerry442 Apr 2015 #24
That looked like the hardest possible way... johnnyrocket Apr 2015 #14
It looks like they have some problems with ground effects. Daemonaquila Apr 2015 #16
Pretty damned close. eggplant Apr 2015 #18
Pardon My Scottish Socialism Unexploded Scotsman Apr 2015 #19
For the most part I have to agree but the best "stuff" most likely goes to clandestine programs. gordianot Apr 2015 #22
It looked like at the last moment, someone realized it was slightly off course and overcorrected. tclambert Apr 2015 #20
excellent - check out the small trim motors firing at the top of the stage trying to stablize it whereisjustice Apr 2015 #23
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
1. Note to self: Buy bigger Magnets.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:09 PM
Apr 2015

Seriously, this was almost the best thing so far this week. Thank you for posting.

As cool as it is, seems like a work-around that keeps us tied to a past way of doing things. I want to see what it evolves into in a hundred years. But I won't.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. Remember some of those from elementary school. It was dreary. First one we cheered was Shepard.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:30 PM
Apr 2015


On May 5, 1961, Shepard piloted the Freedom 7 mission and became the second person, and the first American, to travel into space.[8]"

He was launched by a Redstone rocket, and unlike Gagarin's 108-minute orbital flight, Shepard stayed on a ballistic trajectory—a 15-minute sub-orbital flight which carried him to an altitude of 116 statute miles (187 km) and to a splashdown point 302 statute miles (486 km) down the Atlantic Missile Range...

The launch was seen live on television by millions... Shortly before the launch, Shepard said to himself: "Don't fuck up, Shepard..."[9]


According to Gene Kranz in his book, Failure Is Not an Option, "When reporters asked Shepard what he thought about as he sat atop the Redstone rocket, waiting for liftoff, he had replied, 'The fact that every part of this ship was built by the lowest bidder...'"[10]


It was nice to see the splashdown:



The most memorable one of so many others. My cousin worked IT at NASA during the Moon landing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Shepard#Mercury_Seven

All the girls in our class went to see it live on the school's audio video equipment in B&W. It was just before summer vacation. We all had high hopes, and didn't feel it was beyond our grasp to be in the program. It was likely seen by HRC:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251275799

I was told I couldn't do a lot of things for that same reason. It got old with us real quick. And we have never forgotten it.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. I thought so too.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:47 PM
Apr 2015

It was, "Oh Man....ALMOST!"

I'm surprised they could hit something as small as a barge in the open ocean.
Now, if they can stick the landing.....

onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
4. has anyone invented
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

parachutes yet? It seems to me they would have made that landing if the first stage was moving a bit slower and using other technology than rocket propulsion.

But, diss me if you must, I'm only a carpenter.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
7. Makes sense to me.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:37 PM
Apr 2015
- For years ever since I was a kid I thought they could use them for small planes. Now they do:

onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
8. ah, so they do have those things
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:40 PM
Apr 2015

Maybe I could get a consultant job with SpaceX at a hefty price for introducing them to this type of intelligence?

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
21. Parachutes might give the wind too much say in where it lands.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:23 PM
Apr 2015

They're trying to hit the "X" the coyote crew drew on the barge.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
5. Silly me, it thought that it was falling down because of a malfunction
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:53 PM
Apr 2015

and that hitting the barge was just bad luck. Only after reading the description on YouTube did I realize that it was an attempt to land.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. Government regulations?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:48 PM
Apr 2015

Okay, go sit down. Are you sitting down, now? Good. I hate to be the one to have to tell you this, but there are no government regulations that matter to business, they've been bribed away to insignificance. Plus there is no Santa Claus and there is no Tooth Fairy either (thought I'd get em' all outta the way).

I know, I know. Comes as a shock to some.

- Go get a glass of water and you'll be fine.....

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
26. Please don't make me have to turn the sarcasm indicator back on, it's a waste of electricity.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:09 PM
Apr 2015

This is DU. You won't find many people here who'll SERIOUSLY blather about government regulations being the cause of private industry's failures.


 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
17. I agree.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:00 PM
Apr 2015

The previous one was too bad an attempt to learn much from the last few hundred feet. This one fell over, but they'll have great data at low altitude. That's why they call it rocket science!

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
24. Looks like it.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 06:32 AM
Apr 2015

I'd guess that ending the descent phase in a stable hover a few feet over the landing site, followed by the landing was the plan. Next time.

johnnyrocket

(1,773 posts)
14. That looked like the hardest possible way...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:10 PM
Apr 2015

...to try and land that thing. Seemed like a 10% chance of success.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
16. It looks like they have some problems with ground effects.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:58 PM
Apr 2015

Such a pretty drop until it gets quite close to the barge. Then it tries to correct a little, but that's a huge burn going on. All it takes is a little too much oomph, plus turbulence, and the tweak that would have been good at 1,000 feet gets all higgledy piggledy. Still, a nice job, and I hope they get it spot on next time.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
18. Pretty damned close.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:36 PM
Apr 2015

And this was only the second attempt.

Elon Musk later explained that the bipropellant valve was stuck, and therefore the control system could not react rapidly enough for a successful landing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_CRS-6

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
22. For the most part I have to agree but the best "stuff" most likely goes to clandestine programs.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:57 PM
Apr 2015

As a friend once told me American and old Soviet Rocket Science was at its best when they were trying to develop rockets to throw warheads. When something really impressive comes along it gets classified and who knows where it goes. The hope is someone in private industry will develop something that makes money and is immune from being weaponized at least for a while. Then there is NASA having to answer to the grandest idiot that ever slithered in the halls "Ted Cruz". I doubt there is anyone capable of the vision of huge tasks other than junking up space in near Earth orbit.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
20. It looked like at the last moment, someone realized it was slightly off course and overcorrected.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:18 PM
Apr 2015

But you know, it's coming down through air, and if the air moves, it will move the rocket. A sudden wind gust could wreck an otherwise perfect landing. I can see some whitecaps on the water, so there is some breeze blowing.

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