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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:05 AM Mar 2015

8.8 trillion dollar trade deficit via NAFTA-TPP will continue this deficit.



1 million jobs lost via NAFTA

Vietnam minimum wage pays 56 cents an hour. Under TPP they will be able to get American Federal Contracts financed by tax payers and make Americans compete for jobs that will pay 56 cents an hour.

Make sure to note any elected official that says feeding and educated the middle class and poor adds to the deficit, and then remind them of the trade deficit.

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liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
1. Foreign investment
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:05 AM
Mar 2015

It's a great thing, rich people opening up factories, hiring foreign workers. If I were rich, I'd consider doing it. But not to product products, with near-slave-labor, to ship across the globe, for some rich class of folks to do.

Products should be produced as closely to where they are to be used, as possible. Likewise, if you're going to open up a shop, it should be to produce food, or clothes cheaply, or some other product to be consumed right in that country. You should figure out what can be used, built, what service is needed, and open up a shop to do those things, not create an export based business.

And these other countries, instead of being dumping grounds for our pollution, as they often end up being, should pass their own regulatory devices, to keep us from polluting their countries, and minimum wages, and safety--weaker countries should get together, and decide what these basic regulations are, so stronger economic powers won't take advantage of the "least" tightly regulated countries, offering similar standards, to protect their own present, and future populations.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:02 AM
Mar 2015

NAFTA changed the nation for the worse. The TPP and TTIP will do the same only worse.

Why would President Obama attempt to foist this on the American working class? WTF?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. You answered your own question - because Obama is pushing this.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:57 AM
Mar 2015

The nasty details are secret for a good reason.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
6. I raise your WTF and wonder why only a few elected officials are speaking out
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:04 PM
Mar 2015

against this tool that will replicate privilege that only the elite will enjoy…

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
7. Yes. Why are so few silent? Not only on the TPP issue but on other critical issues.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:37 PM
Mar 2015

We seldom hear Democrats speaking up as they did in the past. Again, WTF?

midnight

(26,624 posts)
9. Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) has called it "the largest corporate power grab you never heard of."
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:23 PM
Mar 2015

He's right. Over 14 months--from January 2013 through February 2014--TPP was never covered in any detail by ABC, CBS or NBC.

It's time to let the news networks know that a big, secret trade deal that has mobilized thousands of activists is a story that needs to be covered.
Sign FAIR's petition now. Tell ABC, CBS and NBC that the Trans Pacific Partnership--and the opposition to it--should be news.

http://fair.org/take-action/action-alerts/no-more-media-silence-on-tpp/


Here is a link I found while trying to figure out why all the silence.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. It is a political device intended to create a soft form of fascism for the benefit of corporations.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:14 AM
Mar 2015
- Some how or another the current psychopaths who run corporations got it into their heads that it's their fucking planet. But I've got news for them, it's not.

It is not by accident that two ''Democratic Presidents'' have delivered us unto the Philistines with these trade agreements -- with promises of good times (and jobs) to come. The question is why are so many falling for it? Are they idiots or under some kind of drugs?

“The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time.”

~Jack London


midnight

(26,624 posts)
10. Union Pres. speculates no talk on TPP because it's to complicated to say lower wages.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:55 AM
Mar 2015

and lost jobs.

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midnight

(26,624 posts)
15. TPP reward authoritarian regimes like Vietnam that systematically violate human rights.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:58 PM
Mar 2015

The State Department, the U.S. Department of Labor, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International have all documented Vietnam’s widespread violations of basic international standards for human rights. Yet, the TPP would reward Vietnam’s bad behavior by giving it duty free access to the U.S. market.


http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/12/31/ten-reasons-why-tpp-must-be-defeated
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